CN

Hey Ferch,

I use the same stuff. I use it because it's quick. It's also great to wipe off the water spots after washing. I don't agree about it being equal to a good wax. If I am getting petty, I pull out the 3M Glaze + Zymol. For a quik-shine, I use Dry-wash. Maybe it just isn't great on Black or my paint isn't perfect. On another note, stone chips are nasty on black paint. My hood looks like it was washed with a sand-blaster. I use that Turtle-wax black colored stuff that comes with the chipstik thingy only on the hood. It's lots of work but it evaporates my stone chips. Just what the doctor ordered.

Cheers,

gr8fl4porsche

I went out shopping for wax today. Did not do much good. I found the 3M glaze but no luck with the P21 products or Blitz wax. Anyone know of national vendors that carry these or is the internet the way to go.

Roamer

Just to add my two cents . . .

Steps on my cleaning. . .

1. Wash car twice with any car cleaner available, first time gets off most of the dirt, second time gets it all.

2. Take a clay bar to the car using water to lubricate, the mothers spray cleaner leaves too much residue on the paint and why spend the cash when its only real purpose is to lubricate the clay bar. (only needs to be done once or twice a year)

3. Use Meguire's cleaning compound, not rubbing, cleaning, much softer and takes out the fine scratches and actually cleans the dry surface. For deeper scratches use 3M's fine polishing compound or rubbing compound if you are serious. With any compound I recommend a liquid compound over paste as the manufacturer has already diluted the abrasive particulates to their proper concentration.

4. Follow up with 3M hand glaze, works great on ANY color.

5. Meguire's gold Carnuba wax, I like it much better than Zymol as it buffs to a much deeper shine and lasts easily as long.

This will take you all day if you do it right. I use a slow orbital buffer to apply the products and a terry cloth to remove. After removing the excess wax I polish the entire car with the buffing mit on the polisher.

When I finished my 86 last week my wife swore it looked like a car straight from the factory.

Good luck!
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Porsche911NYC

For a Concours-Winning Shine (2 First Place Trophies):

3M Imperial Machine Glaze applied with the Cyclo Dual-Head Orbital Polisher followed by One Grand Blitz Wax.

MarkY

If you really want black or red to shine, use Meguiar's Gold Class topped with Pinnacle Souveran.

Chuck Harmon

I detail Porsches and am a Porsche owner, I am a big fan of the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze followed by One Grand Blitz Wax.I have also obtained excellent results with Griots Garage Fine Hand Polish followed by their Best of Show Wax,this works especially well on Guards Red.I cannot afford the high dollor waxes(Pinnicle) I wish I could though,I would like to try that and a few other high end waxes I hear about but since I do this for a living I have to watch what I spend for supplies.

K27

I too just started using Nu-Finish, it was the last brand on the shelf I haven't tried cause I thought is was a hoax.
This stuff rocks! awsome shine and awsome durabillity.

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K27:

Thanks K27

I thought i was the only one.

All the other products above are great but they really don't last as long as NU-finish.

jpc
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Speedraser

One reason I like the Zymol is that, unlike most waxes, it doesn't contain any petroleum distillates, which supposedly dry out the paint (probably takes 100 years to matter, but since I almost never sell anything . . .)

George 86T

Have used Nu-Finish for years on the motorhome because it lasts forever but never thought of it for the P-car! Probably because it doesn't cost enuf and we DO get snobbish when it comes to what we'll put on or in our Porsches!
A product I've never seen on any of these boards is "Der Shiny Stuff" which gives an outstanding "wet look"--but doesn't last as long as some. I get it at The Auto Enthusiast in Danville,Ca --about $17 and GREAT for concours prep.

Paul Hughes

I have had porsches for some time now and I thought it was about time that I started to use these forums. I have tried many waxes without being really impressed. I have discovered a wax that I would highly recommend from a company called Incero Ltd. It is a hard wax that it as good a finish as Zymol but is easier to use and alot cheaper! It has brought up my Guards red a treat and the shine has deepened everytime I have applied it. Superb finish! I even used it in the midday sun and it didn't streak! I can also recommend their wheel cleaner. Amazingly mild but it does a great job. Brake dust is a thing of the past with this! (normally a big problem especially after track days). They tell me all of their products are sourced in the UK, I'm not sure if you can get these products in the states but i'm sure they would ship it out. The web address is <a href="http://www.incero.com" target="_blank">www.incero.com</a>

Jim Michaels

Info for anyone sticking their nose up at Nu Finish: In the last Consumers Reports (CR) empirical test of widely available car waxes (May 2000 issue), Nu Finish paste finished third overall (Nu Finish liquid finished 7th); behind Zymol Cleaner Wax and Prestone Bullet Wax, but both ahead of the highest rated Meguiars and Mothers (both mentioned above in this thread). Nu Finish paste was found to be significantly above average in gloss, durability, and ease of use. It was only about average in cleaning and scratching/hazing (the latter an important consideration for dark finishes). Soon after Nu Finish came out (about 15 years ago maybe) it was top rated by CR. I should mention that CR doesn't test the designer cleaners and waxes such as 3M Hand Glaze and Blitz; just the ones widely available at your local Pep Boys or Advance. 3M One Step Cleaner Wax did finish 4th in the latest test, however.

BTW, in case you weren't counting, the popularity winner on this thread so far is 3M Hand Glaze followed by One Grand Blitz carnuba wax, first mentioned by Bill Gregory. All the options seem to have strengths and weaknesses. What we'll probably never see is a one-step cleaner wax that is easy to use, cleans thoroughly, produces very high gloss, has long durability, and doesn't scratch or haze at all. That would be kinda like a quiet tire that has a soft ride and long wear, and sticks like crazy.

Wil Ferch

Jim:
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
(to springboard from your last paragraph), "Dri-Wash" is as close to these attributes as I've found. It has much of the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze properties, and since it is not a "wax", per se, it does not promote a wax build-up residue over time. Of great importance, too, is it's UV resisting properties, much like sunscreen. It is not widely available to the general public, but is well known by the local high-end body shop that I frequent. The problem is that we're all so engrained by the *very good* products we use right now, that we won't consider superior alternatives...this is much like our preferences for oil and the like. It took me a long time to even consider using this, since, like many of you, I couldn't be weened off the boutique stuff we so dearly love. Once I've used it, however, I was sold. I'm so taken by this product that I might soon start offering it to the List so people can see for themselves. I've sent a sample to our own John Dunkle for early evaluation, and he was highly impressed. Stay tuned for more on this, as part of an intro post I'll make to the List in the near future.
--- Wil Ferch

Jim Michaels

Ok, Wil, you've got me interested. It comes up short on durability, but if it's as easy to apply and wipe off as you say, I wouldn't mind using it every few weeks.