Fuel Tank Vent ystem
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On my '76, the current vent system is configured like this:
Tube from vent in filler neck, to "Y" fitting.
1 side of Y fitting to vent connection @ Tank
1 side of Y to fitting on inner fender just forward of fuse panel.
I just looked @ PET and it shows a real plumbers' mightmare of tubes, containers and GKW.
The problem is, on hard RH turns, gas spills from under the fender and stinks up the car. When I disconnected the above plumbing, there was acutally gas sitting in the tube. Because everyting is below the vent in the filler neck, I think when the gas is pushed to the top of the filler by centrifugal force, it sets up a siphon until the gas retreats.
The question is, what is the best way to plumb this to stop it from happening?
I see earlier cars had a reservoir mounted higher than the filler to stop this. Is that a good back-date? If so, where does the container mount?
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Tube from vent in filler neck, to "Y" fitting.
1 side of Y fitting to vent connection @ Tank
1 side of Y to fitting on inner fender just forward of fuse panel.
I just looked @ PET and it shows a real plumbers' mightmare of tubes, containers and GKW.
The problem is, on hard RH turns, gas spills from under the fender and stinks up the car. When I disconnected the above plumbing, there was acutally gas sitting in the tube. Because everyting is below the vent in the filler neck, I think when the gas is pushed to the top of the filler by centrifugal force, it sets up a siphon until the gas retreats.
The question is, what is the best way to plumb this to stop it from happening?
I see earlier cars had a reservoir mounted higher than the filler to stop this. Is that a good back-date? If so, where does the container mount?
TIA
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Dave, did you check the hose between the filler neck and the gas tank? I had a 78 SC that also smelled of gas after track events. Turns out the connector hose was brittle and leaked. Also check the gas cap. There is a cork gasket in there also... Good Luck. Lou
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Thanks Lou, Yes put a new gas cap on some time ago. Hoses are brittle, actually that is what prompted the inspection and subsequent research. I have made the decision to back date to a '73 system which puts a catch container abvoe the filler level, then y's out to the tank and fender vent. Seems a better idea than trying to collect all the stuff to put it right for a '76. I've ordered the whole '73 system (used) From Parts Heaven and will adapt it as required. Anyone know how and where the container is mounted?
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Dave,
I have a '76 but obviously Euro spec. My breather just comes off the top of the tank and straight to the filler - no Y piece. My manual indicates that the US models had a Y piece as you described, with one line going to the bottom of an expansion chamber - a tube comes off the top of the chamber and drops to a charcoal filter, then on to the air filter.
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I have a '76 but obviously Euro spec. My breather just comes off the top of the tank and straight to the filler - no Y piece. My manual indicates that the US models had a Y piece as you described, with one line going to the bottom of an expansion chamber - a tube comes off the top of the chamber and drops to a charcoal filter, then on to the air filter.
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This brings up another question. Is the gas cap ventilated? My guess is no....because of fume recovery, at least in the '76 Ca. cars.
If I am right, if I run it as PJC has, there is no tank ventilation to add air as gas is used. I bet the Euro has a vented cap.
As far as the "Y" connector is concerned, yep, one side shouild go to the missing container, but as of not goes straight to the fender.
Ronin: did you block the filler neck vent and just go with the tank vent, or the other way?
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If I am right, if I run it as PJC has, there is no tank ventilation to add air as gas is used. I bet the Euro has a vented cap.
As far as the "Y" connector is concerned, yep, one side shouild go to the missing container, but as of not goes straight to the fender.
Ronin: did you block the filler neck vent and just go with the tank vent, or the other way?
TIA
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Originally Posted by DGaunt
This brings up another question. Is the gas cap ventilated? My guess is no....
Ronin: did you block the filler neck vent and just go with the tank vent, or the other way?
I think your talking about the over-fill drain line. The drain line is intact.
I started removing smog stuff and left a small hose connected. I have to try hard to spill the oz by filling to the very extreme top of the neck.. otherwise the routine gas pump hose clicks off before that happens.
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I haveno proble with the fueling part, I have to mess up big to spill too. My problem is spilling fuel on hard turns. I think you beat that when you coiled the line up high. I my car, the filler vent is the iverflow. and some idiot in CA knocked out the baffle for unleaded pump nozzles, so sloshing fuel has an unimpeded shot at the overflow/vent port in the filler.