x89150152

There's a local 1984 Porsche 911 C2 for sale with 115k miles. It seems like the seller has done a lot of modifications, which I'll list below. I'm interested in purchasing, but the seller hasn't listed a price and I'm not sure what a reasonable offer is. What would you guys pay for something like this?

Modifications:
Tre rsr backdate rear bumper
Tre ducktail
Morimoto headlights
Rsr carpet kit
Custom alcantera and black leather interior
Momo steering wheel with momo hub
Ceramic tint
Sv auto titanium muffler tips
Sv auto headers
New small battery
High torque starter
Solid state Dme relay
New recaro seats with mounts and sliders 4 point harness
2 Bluetooth speakers mounted to cage
Steve Wong chip with 4k ecu
GT3 muffler custom install by wicked wrench
Variant 3 piece wheels
New tires

wolfgang1

That looks wicked

silverlock

Take a look at some of the modified SC & 3.2 auctions/values on BaT. Not the only source of truth but a good first pass.

A lot of value will be in the paperwork / service history too. Has it had the valve guides replaced? Suspension bushings & other seals? Been sitting for a bit?

As a bit of a guesstimate: a decent 115k 3.2 is probably in the ballpark of $70-75k. Add the mods and the backdated rear, etc, and likely some emotional value if the seller was the one who modified it and it’s probably closer to $95k.

I would just ask them to name their price though, and then go from there.

P.S: not to everyone’s taste here but I like it. Great color (respray?)

darylbowden

Do you like it? Because to me, someone who likes their cars more stock, I would pay less for that than I would for a stock one. But for the person who thinks those mods are amazing, they may feel the exact opposite.

Nice enough components, obviously not a full rebuild, not done by a shop with a "name," you could be anywhere between 60-100k.

Dr. 914

actually worth much less that a stock one. Take 20 % off the price of a nice one if you really want a modified car like this

raspritz

Yeah. It's a very nice-looking car, and I'm sure the owner is very proud of it, but Dr. 914 is right. Those mods reduce value by at least 20%; the owner did them for his own pleasure, and shouldn't expect to recoup his costs. Not to mention it's probably not numbers-matching, which also is a hit against value. Hagerty Price Guide lists a good 1984 911 Carrera 3.4 (there is no such thing as a "C2") at $57K. I'm sure the seller would be offended by that offer, but that would be top dollar, IMO.

Ironman88

To me the mods (not just those listed, but the other mods that are evident) are a detriment. I would have zero interest in this car, regardless of the price.

theiceman

There is no such thing as an 84 C2 so i will state that right off the bat.

Its an 84 Carrera. the C2 had a 3.6 litre and i dont think even came out till 90 and was actually a 964.

That said personally i think this thing is hideous. I get it, opinions are like a holes. But if i was looking for a car and i saw this , i wouldn't care how much it cost, i wouldn't even ask as i would just say no thanks. But guys buy cars for different reasons and im sure this guy is proud of his car and loves it, but i think the market for this kind of modified car might be quite small, so price should be lower than a stock nice example. .

the thing i find interesting is the shock absorber on the rear engine mount, i was under the impression only cabs had these, and this is a coupe.. so , interesting.

500

Looks like a mix of things. Definitely agree that this would likely trade at lower values than decently-nice original cars. Unusual visual combination of 964-esqu front and long-hood rear.

If everything checks out, the price is appropriate, and this is the type of car you want, it could be decent.

Not a top-drawer build (based on appearance), but does look better than a lot of modified cars I've seen on here and a lot of the added parts are quite good actually. I have the feeling that the motor was just dumped in from a cab (fuel lines look original etc., clues that major work was not done). Detailed check of the bodywork for how the flares were done, the bumper mounting, rust issues etc. is paramount.

With the exception of the bodywork, most of the mods seem to be bolt-on stuff, which means some of the more fundamental items (like suspension bushings) MAY have not been done - all items to check into.

wildcat077

It’s pretty obvious that the owner spent a lot of dollars on his modifications … what’s the asking price for the car ?

Cheers
Phil

x89150152

Thanks for all the feedback. I've been in contact with the seller. Sounds like he purchased the car from a reputable vintage porsche dealer/repair shop nearby. Between the purchase of the vehicle and modifications, including steel wheel flares and re-spray, he has claims he's spent $120k+. He's wanting $85-90k to let it go. I like the look and execution of the build, but, like many of you, I think the price is a little high.

wildcat077

It’s pretty easy to pump a lot of dollars in those cars , i paid 25K for my 89 in 2007 and i’m into it for over 60K so far with all the upgrades and a 95 3.6 engine swap.
Steel wide body fenders are on my bucket list and i know my car probably lost a lot of value for the purists but i don’t care … it’s my car and i like it that way !
I’m thinking 60-65 would be a fair price for that car as it seems to have a rear retro look but the front does not have the proper long hood conversion, but that’s just me …
Keep us posted !

Cheers
Phil

theiceman

I agree that there is nothing wrong with pouring money into a car that you want and enjoy. Definitely makes it yours just the way you want it and you build it for you ..

i think the stretch for this seller ( or any seller of a highly modified car ) is having expectations the next person will pay for the modifications. personally i would think the car is worth half of what he is trying to sell it for .. but i'm sure there will be a buyer who will pay what he wants, i'm just not 100% positive it will be an enthusiast of the Marque. It will be more likely a hot rod fan

chuck s

I see the market going toward a hotrod look. If the fenders are well done in metal and the paint is good ( does not look to have been stripped to paint all the body) , I can easily see this car for 85K. It is a bit odd to have different front and rear looks. If the car was on BAT you could get a much better idea of its quality.

Wilder

"Modified" is a very encompassing term. Singers are "modified" and they trade between $800k and $3.5m.

It boils down to two things: a) quality of the modification, and b) what the market will pay. A dictates B. Find past sales of similarly modified Carreras in online auction sites and negotiate from there.