classic911

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classic911

I'm trying to post pics of both cars....

stefang

Use "attach file"

g-50cab

Thanks Matteo


They are all great cars - like picking between a blond and brunette... A brunette with big hips that is...

classic911

Here's the TL...

classic911

Here's the 89:

2002M3Drew

Hey Classic,

I think I saw a listing for the TL in the Pano I rec'd yesterday...in Jersey, right? If not, there is another one in Chiffon available, under 40K miles, asking price was $28K.

mamoroso

Classic

A couple of thoughts:
WHEELS: the 89 did not come with those wheels. The 25th anniv came with Fuchs which were color coded with the car's paint. I will cost you much $$$ to get the 89 back to original. Also those Fuchs on the TL are worth a lot of money. I know because I wanted to get a set of 8' or 9' Fuchs for my 88 and you are looking at around $1000 for 2 nice 8'.

HEADLAMPS
most of the pre 84 Carreras I have come across have had their headlights upgraded to H4. IMO they look way better and provide a better light as well. This could set you back $3-400 I think.

g-50cab

BA in the latest issue of excellence on what to buy - "The best and most desireable (Porsche Market Update 911: 1974-89, including TL's) of these cars are the 1987-1989 911's with the better shifting G-50 transmissions..."

mamoroso

Well Jeremy I can't argue with that.... I think i came to the same conclusion myself

But for the same price and the same mileage I take a M491 and learn how to shift... I think I am a poseur at heart after all...

g-50cab

HAHA - Then I think I am a reverse poseur - I want a 911 - without a tail or spoliers or flares with a big honking 3.8 or turbo putting 400+hp... Skinny hips and a big bark!

Ted Drake

Just looking at the 2 pics you posted the TL is eye candy. The 89 looks to me like any year Carrera.
I have an 86 TL and it is certainly one of my favorite sports cars. Many times non-Porsche people have asked me if it is new? Yesterday it was "your Porsche looks great but I bet you get that all the time".
Sure it is a sheep in wolves clothing. That's fine with me since it is my daily commuter car. The 3.2 has plenty of power and the engine service is much cheaper than a turbo.
True the TL wieghs more and is not as aerodynamic as the same year Carrera but on the freeway or a DE that really does not matter.
Go TL, you can always find another G-50 Carrera.
If you don't and later you look again for a TL you may not be able to find another nice one for a fair price.

The 915 is very driveable, for just a G-50 I would not want to give away all the upgrades cosmetic and mechanical on the M491. I have a 915 in my early 911 RS bodied track car, the 915 has worked well for years on the track and on the street. Fear not the 915.

Bigrubberjeep

1."#3 The car is a Turbo Look - by definition it's attempting to look like something it is not."

2."Having a Turbo-look Carrera is a bit like having a 356 Speedster replica. The first question everyone asks is, "Is it the real thing?" It's no fun to admit it isn't."



1. Reply- Actually, in Europe where the car is actually made it doesnt go by "Turbo Look" - It go's by the more apropriate name

SUPER SPORT, that is the true (Porsche Factory Issued) and more defining name of the car.

Unfortunetly in the US the "Super Sport" name was already taked by Chevrolet, so it hindered Porsche from really marketing the car with it's proper name.

So in conclusion it is far from trying to be a turbo -

It is actually the option for those true enthusiast that were planing on tracking the car some day and make FULL USE of the SUSPENSION and BRAKES.

What do you think everyone with a comon narrow body Carrera upgrades first when they decide to track the car?

Suspension and brakes.

Poseur is putting a Turbo or Carrera badge on a Super Sport, hence the "script delete" option being standard on a M491

How many Acuras Integras and Civis do you see with "Type R" script on them? How many are really "Type R's"?
But it is the real thing - It's a Super Sport. Far from being a replica, but defiently a track performance enhanced carrera.

2. Reply - But it is the real thing - It's a Super Sport. Far from being a replica, but defiently a track performance enhanced carrera.

TaylorSea4

Pardon me for saying so, but statistics can REALLY be such useless numbers at times. Drive 'em both, and (like someone else said) buy the one that you think will work best for what you're going to do. If you have no plans to ever track the car, then Jeremy may be right (the '89).

That being said, I like Jeep's post above. There's some guy here on the list (M491pete or something) that is VERY well versed in his M491 history. There IS a difference with cars carrying that code. Personally, I'd go for a sleeper look and buy the (lower miles-per-year) TL, ditch the whale tale for a Carrera-esque duck tail and honk around to my heart's content.

Certainly a delimma we'd all love to find ourselves in, man. Good luck.

TaylorSea4

One more thing. Jeremy, don't give the troll much concern. I totally respect your opinion, even if I don't agree with it. I like your car even more, POSER!