Titanium5150

Hello all -

Unfortunately my uncle has just about reached the point where he can no longer safely drive. He has a 1984 Ruby Red Metallic 3.2 Carrera Targa that will be up for sale in the near future. This is a European spec that made its way to the US in the early 90's. My uncle purchased it around 1999 -2001 and has used it as a (mostly) daily driver for the last 20+ years. The odometer stopped working several years ago and shows 179k miles and he estimated that there is probably an additional 50k miles on it. Somewhat recently the fuel tank, clutch, and battery have been replaced. I have driven the car numerous times, as recently as this weekend, and mechanically it runs flawlessly. It starts right up, the suspension feels tight, and the brakes are strong. The targa roof does not leak. That's about where the good news ends. There is a slight oil leak. The interior is very rough and there is some bubbling rust on the hood and around the headlights and there is rot in the door frames. My uncle is suffering from dementia, so it's a bit of a challenge getting all the information on the car. While I'm pretty well versed in my 981, I don't know too much about the air cooled 911's. I tried Vinanalytics and the decoder here on Rennlist and I have not had much luck with VIN WP0ZZZ91ZES141210. Also, the hood has been replaced as evidenced by a different VIN code, so the options sticker I've seen on other 911's is missing and wouldn't be of any help anyways.

I'm hoping that the resident air cooled 911 experts can help me place a value on this.

Please fire away any questions and I'll do my best to provide answers.

wildcat077

Looks a little rough at first glance but luckily there are many Targa owners on this forum that will
be able to help you place a fair value on the car !
Due to all the visible rust though , i’m not sure it will be a high value car …

Cheers
Phil

budge96

Hello your uncle seems to have kept the car highly original which is a big plus ,despite the mileage the exterior panels and paint appear remarkably well kept a good wash and polish should do wonders for the finish .
i have had a few targas and it can be an acquired taste presently a '86 US , Euro cars are far and few in between tend to have strong motors but
suffer from areas of rust through as seen in the door post , this can be addressed but likely by someone planning to hold for the long run.
i tend to be more conservative in my estimates sure if you find that one guy that loves your car there's no telling what he may pay for the rest of us I would venture with a good leak down and compression test a value of $35 k to $low $40's .
The enterior will also clean up with a shampoo for the carpets and replacement seat covers or seats.. Bert

Titanium5150

Yes, other than the aftermarket radio, I'm pretty sure it's all original. Not sure if the phone dials are original as I'm accustomed to seeing Fuchs.

ChrisHamilton

Maybe it's just me but 35K-40K seems rather high given the cars condition. Coupe, maybe but it being a Targa, I don't see it.

wolfgang1

I think the targa discounts to coupes is narrowing… but I too think 35-40 is optimistic given the rust

Ironman88

Definitely some attractive aspects of this car, but I would agree that the rust is a significant detracting issue. 250k + miles may also scare many off.

The rest could be addressed fairly easily.

Spyerx

A clean example is what, 60?
This needs just spitballing: 5k interior, 20k chassis rust and paint, figure 10k engine stuff given miles, another 10k because it always costs more than you think. This is at best a $20k car. Maybe you can get a bit more but it’s rough.

Titanium5150

It's difficult because I can't seem to find anything comparable.

Ironman88

I don't think that even if the issues listed above were addressed that this car would bring $60k - particularly given the mileage @ 250k+. Perhaps it could be a $50k or so car in the current market.

Even at that though, the car in its current condition should bring $20k from a DIY type buyer.

raspritz

This isn't my type of car, but for sure the repair cost estimates above are very optimistic. I agree you should be very happy getting $20K.

DC911S

Put it on BAT with no reserve and let it go.

TxTurboBill

$24k at the most due to the rust.

Keith Guidus

agreed! BAT the car!

Dr. 914

there is no way this car is worth more than 20 thousand. With the rust and the euro heritage and no air, it would take 70 grand to fix it and who knows about the engine. I would consider this one a parts car