'85 3.2 DME unit rebuild
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I have a very intermittent no start problem with my '85 that I believe the DME unit is responsible for so I want to have it checked out.
Who is the go to for this work these days ? I have not seen a recent thread on this, who provides best feedback regarding a problem ?
I don't need a performance chip, looking for solid reliability.
Who is the go to for this work these days ? I have not seen a recent thread on this, who provides best feedback regarding a problem ?
I don't need a performance chip, looking for solid reliability.
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I have a very intermittent no start problem with my '85 that I believe the DME unit is responsible for so I want to have it checked out.
Who is the go to for this work these days ? I have not seen a recent thread on this, who provides best feedback regarding a problem ?
I don't need a performance chip, looking for solid reliability.
Who is the go to for this work these days ? I have not seen a recent thread on this, who provides best feedback regarding a problem ?
I don't need a performance chip, looking for solid reliability.
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This repair of the three pins noted should only take about a 15 minute soldering effort.
Read here under Porsche DME ECM for some helpful info; https://www.systemsc.com/problems.htm
Also for troubleshooting guidance also read here; http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...eshooting.html
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Loren,
I have checked the solder joints you mentioned, I seen this in one of your posts on the other forum. I also checked all the joints in the unit under a lighted magnifier. I am no expert at inspecting PCB's but I see no bad joints. Is it advisable to re-solder the 3 joints you pointed out even though I see no issue ?
Also, I have seen your website before and have read the info there, thanks for making that info public, I'm sure it has helped many people.
My problem is not a textbook type no start, last time it happened was over a year ago. Between the 2 no start events there were no starting, driveability, or performance issues. After the last no start I could not perform any diagnostics until the next day, first thing was to check DME relay, when I keyed on to check power at relay the fuel pump ran for about 4 seconds (I do not have a relay with priming feature), how can the fuel pump run unless the DME grounded the fuel pump relay ??? Next I turned the key to the crank position to see if power was going to fuel pump during crank, cranking was slow and the engine acted like timing was very advanced. I then turned key off and tried to crank again, engine acted normal and started.
Because of the strange events during diagnostics I thought a DME unit guru could help me out, everything else in the system is fairly new or checks out fine.
I have checked the solder joints you mentioned, I seen this in one of your posts on the other forum. I also checked all the joints in the unit under a lighted magnifier. I am no expert at inspecting PCB's but I see no bad joints. Is it advisable to re-solder the 3 joints you pointed out even though I see no issue ?
Also, I have seen your website before and have read the info there, thanks for making that info public, I'm sure it has helped many people.
My problem is not a textbook type no start, last time it happened was over a year ago. Between the 2 no start events there were no starting, driveability, or performance issues. After the last no start I could not perform any diagnostics until the next day, first thing was to check DME relay, when I keyed on to check power at relay the fuel pump ran for about 4 seconds (I do not have a relay with priming feature), how can the fuel pump run unless the DME grounded the fuel pump relay ??? Next I turned the key to the crank position to see if power was going to fuel pump during crank, cranking was slow and the engine acted like timing was very advanced. I then turned key off and tried to crank again, engine acted normal and started.
Because of the strange events during diagnostics I thought a DME unit guru could help me out, everything else in the system is fairly new or checks out fine.
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Loren,
I have checked the solder joints you mentioned, I seen this in one of your posts on the other forum. I also checked all the joints in the unit under a lighted magnifier. I am no expert at inspecting PCB's but I see no bad joints. Is it advisable to re-solder the 3 joints you pointed out even though I see no issue ?
I have checked the solder joints you mentioned, I seen this in one of your posts on the other forum. I also checked all the joints in the unit under a lighted magnifier. I am no expert at inspecting PCB's but I see no bad joints. Is it advisable to re-solder the 3 joints you pointed out even though I see no issue ?
Also, I have seen your website before and have read the info there, thanks for making that info public, I'm sure it has helped many people.
My problem is not a textbook type no start, last time it happened was over a year ago. Between the 2 no start events there were no starting, driveability, or performance issues. After the last no start I could not perform any diagnostics until the next day, first thing was to check DME relay, when I keyed on to check power at relay the fuel pump ran for about 4 seconds (I do not have a relay with priming feature), how can the fuel pump run unless the DME grounded the fuel pump relay ???
My problem is not a textbook type no start, last time it happened was over a year ago. Between the 2 no start events there were no starting, driveability, or performance issues. After the last no start I could not perform any diagnostics until the next day, first thing was to check DME relay, when I keyed on to check power at relay the fuel pump ran for about 4 seconds (I do not have a relay with priming feature), how can the fuel pump run unless the DME grounded the fuel pump relay ???
Next I turned the key to the crank position to see if power was going to fuel pump during crank, cranking was slow and the engine acted like timing was very advanced. I then turned key off and tried to crank again, engine acted normal and started.
Because of the strange events during diagnostics I thought a DME unit guru could help me out, everything else in the system is fairly new or checks out fine.
Because of the strange events during diagnostics I thought a DME unit guru could help me out, everything else in the system is fairly new or checks out fine.
The DME ECM that's more problematic is later DME ( 0261 200 082) from an intermittency because of bad solder connections that are indicated in the posted image.
Next time you have a no-start condition, try and localize the problem to a no-spark/no-fuel condition.
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Thanks Loren,
I will re-solder the 3 pins.
DME relay is new.
All grounds and power connections were checked after last years no start.
I will post if I find anything new.
I will re-solder the 3 pins.
DME relay is new.
All grounds and power connections were checked after last years no start.
I will post if I find anything new.
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The first start of the year last spring had a long crank time but started. The car sat for about 4 months over the winter.
I'm thinking of switching to a DME relay with the fuel prime feature.
Thanks again for your input.
I'm thinking of switching to a DME relay with the fuel prime feature.
Thanks again for your input.