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Stay away from 1985 sunroof coupes unless it has aftermarket lower seats. The seat rails are higher on that particular year and you will not seat comfortably at 6.4'. Welding lower seat brackets is a big job and sketchy since you will have to remove the fuel lines. Good news it's only for the 85s.
Thank you very much, that’s great advice. Happy Holidays.
There’s a great book called The Used 911 Story by Peter Zimmerman that goes through and details the particular pros and cons of each year. That’s how I decided I wanted an ‘87.
There’s a great book called The Used 911 Story by Peter Zimmerman that goes through and details the particular pros and cons of each year. That’s how I decided I wanted an ‘87.
Thank you for the recommendation, I will look for that book. Your car is beautiful and that’s a great picture. Happy Holidays.
[QUOTE=raspritz;17111358]One of the longtime members of our club races a Shelby GT350. Like I said, he blows by me on long straightaways. I catch up and can pass him in any corner, anytime, and since on most tracks corners occur as a series, he's in my rearview mirror and then i'm long gone.
Edit: Seen on an entry ramp to I-25 today near Boulder, CO. 1966 Shelby Ford GT40 mark II-B. An escapee from the Shelby Muse
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Wow my second favorite car in the world next to my Porsche. Very fun to drive from personnel experience. I speeding ticket magnet though. But so is a GT3
GT40's are amazing....but you know he is below the rear view and side view mirror of most SUV's/trucks....I can't count how many times I was forced off of the road in my Lotus Elise....needed an orange ball on an antennae like cyclists use lol....
I would drive as many 911 cars as you are able. Hone in on the model you want. Your fastback is probably worth 35-45000, if not more if it's "modified" properly. I would place it on Bring A Trailer. It should break the bank.
For around $ 50.000, you can own a mid 1980s 3.0 or 3.2 car as well as up to an early 2012-13 991.
Be as picky as possible in your search. There are thousands of cars out there and you have great trade bait.
One of the longtime members of our club races a Shelby GT350. Like I said, he blows by me on long straightaways. I catch up and can pass him in any corner, anytime, and since on most tracks corners occur as a series, he's in my rearview mirror and then i'm long gone.
Not sure what you are driving on track, but if the GT350 is one of the 2016 or newer models, I’d maintain that what you described is more a feature of disparity in driving skill/experience than car capability. The GT350 is a beast on track with the proper driver.
Not sure what you are driving on track, but if the GT350 is one of the 2016 or newer models, I’d maintain that what you described is more a feature of disparity in driving skill/experience than car capability. The GT350 is a beast on track with the proper driver.
This thread has drifted a bit. This is the early 911 forum, and you and I are talking apples and oranges. The OP and my friend both drive/race 1966 Shelby GT350s. I race a 1967 911 S-spec, shown in my avatar. The Shelby can pass me on a straight anytime, and I can pass him in the twisties, anytime. Now, if you want to talk modern cars, the modern Shelby Mustang GT350 has a power-to-weight ratio of 229.0 W/kg. My modern Porsche 911 TurboS has a power-to-weight ratio of 270.0 W/kg. Assuming equally competent drivers, a modern 911 TurboS can pass a modern GT350 on a straight and also in the twisties. Anytime, anywhere.
I would drive as many 911 cars as you are able. Hone in on the model you want. Your fastback is probably worth 35-45000, if not more if it's "modified" properly. I would place it on Bring A Trailer. It should break the bank.
For around $ 50.000, you can own a mid 1980s 3.0 or 3.2 car as well as up to an early 2012-13 991.
Be as picky as possible in your search. There are thousands of cars out there and you have great trade bait.
That’s a big commitment! I’m not ready to get rid of the Mustang, plus my wife and daughter love it. I’m sure I would immediately regret selling it, as it is a great car. When I do this, I will keep both cars and probably decide which one I want to keep long-term. My issue is parking since I live in a city. You’re right about driving 911’s, I just need to figure out the best way to do that. I’ll keep an eye out for cars for sale locally and go take some test drives. Thanks a lot!
I would not sell your Mustang. Regarding Porsches, I know you are thinking air-cooled mid-to-late 80s, but I really think you should broaden your investigation to include both air-cooled and water-cooled cars. The older air-cooled cars are quirky pleasures and not for everybody, the fact that you may have had the poster on your wall notwithstanding. Air-cooled Porsches have their charm and place, but for raw seat-of-the-pants excitement, no air-cooled Porsche (I own two) can touch any water-cooled Porsche (I own two). And the later cars are a lot less of a PIA. 997s are very affordable and are an obvious future classic.
I would not sell your Mustang. Regarding Porsches, I know you are thinking air-cooled mid-to-late 80s, but I really think you should broaden your investigation to include both air-cooled and water-cooled cars. The older air-cooled cars are quirky pleasures and not for everybody, the fact that you may have had the poster on your wall notwithstanding. Air-cooled Porsches have their charm and place, but for raw seat-of-the-pants excitement, no air-cooled Porsche (I own two) can touch any water-cooled Porsche (I own two). And the later cars are a lot less of a PIA. 997s are very affordable and are an obvious future classic.
I agree you should try as wide a range as you can. Maybe you’ll like a 993 more, maybe an SC. Do you care if a Volvo wagon beats you off the line (which my wife has done to me)? Do you like drives on tight backroads, where it’s more in its element?
Personally, when I was first looking, I thought I had to have a 911 with a G50. Ended up with an SC and absolutely loved it. Partly because the 915 and cable clutch felt like nothing I had driven before, and partly because I could feel everything. It was an amazing mechanical connection. I recently drove a 930 and it brought all that back.
I’ve yet to drive a water cooled (996, 997S, 996tt, 997tt, all modified) that has come close to the feeling of my modified 964 or even SC, but I may be looking at getting different things out of driving. The TTS are fun in a different way, but not the NAs. They’re more capable, sure, but also more muted and boring at slower speeds. I’d like to compare a GT3 though.
I would not sell your Mustang. Regarding Porsches, I know you are thinking air-cooled mid-to-late 80s, but I really think you should broaden your investigation to include both air-cooled and water-cooled cars. The older air-cooled cars are quirky pleasures and not for everybody, the fact that you may have had the poster on your wall notwithstanding. Air-cooled Porsches have their charm and place, but for raw seat-of-the-pants excitement, no air-cooled Porsche (I own two) can touch any water-cooled Porsche (I own two). And the later cars are a lot less of a PIA. 997s are very affordable and are an obvious future classic.
That’s good advice, thank you. I really shouldn’t narrow my search before I’ve even driven a Porsche. The last Porsche I drove was a 928 and it was a huge disappointment. I know 911s are nothing like that. I very much enjoy feeling connected to my car and the road and I like the look and feel of classics. The upright headlights on earlier 911s are beautiful to me. I will check out the 997s too. Thanks again, I appreciate your thoughts.
Originally Posted by Sirenty
I agree you should try as wide a range as you can. Maybe you’ll like a 993 more, maybe an SC. Do you care if a Volvo wagon beats you off the line (which my wife has done to me)? Do you like drives on tight backroads, where it’s more in its element?
Personally, when I was first looking, I thought I had to have a 911 with a G50. Ended up with an SC and absolutely loved it. Partly because the 915 and cable clutch felt like nothing I had driven before, and partly because I could feel everything. It was an amazing mechanical connection. I recently drove a 930 and it brought all that back.
I’ve yet to drive a water cooled (996, 997S, 996tt, 997tt, all modified) that has come close to the feeling of my modified 964 or even SC, but I may be looking at getting different things out of driving. The TTS are fun in a different way, but not the NAs. They’re more capable, sure, but also more muted and boring at slower speeds. I’d like to compare a GT3 though.
I love driving classic cars, even though I made my Mustang with modern components, it still has the classic feel to it. I’m also not a huge fan of all the electronic nannies in my fun cars. Fine with it in my DD, but when I want to drive, I want to be the one driving. When the backend of my Mustang wants to pass the front, it’s up to me to drive out of it. I don’t get as excited for pure speed as much as the feeling of driving the car around a corner. I love long drives on twisty roads out in the country (sounds like an on-line dating profile). I will definitely broaden my prospects, at least until I have the opportunity to drive some. Your car has opened me up to the 964. Thanks a lot for your thoughts.
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