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Old 03-25-2020 | 04:44 PM
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oh i assumed you had the omega spring off already. i dont think much holds that on . i just dont remember how i did it . i left it dangling on the transmission i think . i dont use penetrant on exhaust bolts as i want them to snap , just my preference . dont waste your time with the air hammer. just crack off those crossover bolts and you are on your way.
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Originally Posted by theiceman
oh i assumed you had the omega spring off already. i dont think much holds that on . i just dont remember how i did it . i left it dangling on the transmission i think . i dont use penetrant on exhaust bolts as i want them to snap , just my preference . dont waste your time with the air hammer. just crack off those crossover bolts and you are on your way.

Smart idea.. I’ll just snap those bolts for sure,
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what happened ??? is it off yet ???
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Originally Posted by theiceman
what happened ??? is it off yet ???
yes! I got it off just yesterday.. it took me 3 days wrestling with the cross pipe.
Used- heat, dremell, chisel, hammer, pry bar, penetrating oil and lots of sweat and swearing..lol! Then the pipes flanges came off though it’s still under the engine, I had to move it around to clear the omega spring while pulling the trans.
thanks again.
now I’m going to tackle the head studs. First timer.
I ordered Porsche steel studs to replace the lower delivars. Noticed a lot of little things that needs replacing like the washers for the clutch fork and shaft but I’m focusing on the engine first.


Finally! Time for brew🍺
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i can offer a couple of tips.

I got a torch with a pencil tip from lowes, it uses oxygen and gas . Very cool setup but uses a lot of oxygen.

I took the heads off with exchanges still on it and worked comfortably on my work bench .
I used a regular wrench 13mm i think and a allen key, no extensions or anything fancy . heated it with the torch, if it didn't come off i heated it more. the short wrench and allen key was by design to stop my over torquing and snapping the stud.
Obviously you need a good set of welders gloves. i had to get them cherry red.
Got all 12 out without a single break .

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Old 03-30-2020 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
i can offer a couple of tips.

I got a torch with a pencil tip from lowes, it uses oxygen and gas . Very cool setup but uses a lot of oxygen.

I took the heads off with exchanges still on it and worked comfortably on my work bench .
I used a regular wrench 13mm i think and a allen key, no extensions or anything fancy . heated it with the torch, if it didn't come off i heated it more. the short wrench and allen key was by design to stop my over torquing and snapping the stud.
Obviously you need a good set of welders gloves. i had to get them cherry red.
Got all 12 out without a single break .

Thanks Iceman.! I bought just the propane torch but I did see the O2 torch, will get that one too.
You’re saying I can remove the heads with the heat exchanger intact? And I’m going to open up my timing chain cover to take a look on what type of cam sprocket I have..just being sure on what tools I need. Crawfoot with P202 or just P9191 that I’m hoping.
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I guess I would need the crawfoot and P202 tools.
Old 03-30-2020 | 05:43 PM
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yes you sure can ....
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in this pic you can see i was tackling same project as you ....

and yes you need that tool . I used one my buddy built and it worked very well.


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Awesome! Your rebuilding? Looks exactly what I’m doing for sure.. we have the same broom and 2x4’s
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I’ve been reading a lot on these engines.. have a few books and this forum helps a lot.
what do you use to clean the block and covers?

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First pass with engine greaser and a stiff bristle brush .. second pass with brake kleen .. i saved the brake clean in an air tight container and use it for cleaning small parts and bolts...
I did all of the cleaning outside before i brought it in .

I actually used a pressure washer after blocking all the openings on my very first pass with engine degreaser .... it was a family affair .! .

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I have a P202 tool, and a 1 13/16" crowfoot and a 1 13/16" socket that I am looking to get rid of.
And the P140 securing nut piston holders.

PM if interested.
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Originally Posted by tac911t
I have a P202 tool, and a 1 13/16" crowfoot and a 1 13/16" socket that I am looking to get rid of.
And the P140 securing nut piston holders.

PM if interested.
ahh.. man.. a day late🙁 I ordered the tools from pelican. Thanks though.
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Iceman.. I might be a little late to pressure wash.. I like it though. Thought of easy day today, just worked on my runners.


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Are you going to take off the heads? I guess I missed the jump from blown airbox and valve adjustment to engine disassembly.

If you don't plan to reuse the heat exchangers, then I would sacrifice them now. Cut them off, this lets you attack the nuts holding the flanges to the heads with a Dremel. Otherwise I would be surprised if you can get all the nuts off without breaking a stud.

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Originally Posted by Mark Salvetti
Are you going to take off the heads? I guess I missed the jump from blown airbox and valve adjustment to engine disassembly.

If you don't plan to reuse the heat exchangers, then I would sacrifice them now. Cut them off, this lets you attack the nuts holding the flanges to the heads with a Dremel. Otherwise I would be surprised if you can get all the nuts off without breaking a stud.

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Hi Mark.. ya unfortunately found 3 lower studs broken off. So I’m going to change the lowers with steel. Looks like a common theme.. from blown airbox to head studs. Not going to split the case just the lower studs..
I already have new
- Bosch injectors / sleeves
- airbox with pop off valve/ spider
- bunch of seals and gaskets
- sensors
- breather hose
- will need new clutch kit
- probably exhaust in the future
Trying to get the engine part done first and hopefully it fires right up. 🙏

question..? Did my research seems like the upper steel is ok to use for the lower studs.. my Porsche dealership was hesitant on it.
cheers.


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