78 911SC questions vs a 996TT
#16
Thanks. Hope it helped. And not add to first world dilemma. Lol.
Btw, I almost bought a 911SC project 4 weeks ago. Seller and I couldn’t agree on the price. The drive was nostalgic but wouldn’t replace my 996TT with it. I’d have to do serious restomod to be functionally equivalent to my 996TT.
Hope you scratch the itch soon.
Btw, I almost bought a 911SC project 4 weeks ago. Seller and I couldn’t agree on the price. The drive was nostalgic but wouldn’t replace my 996TT with it. I’d have to do serious restomod to be functionally equivalent to my 996TT.
Hope you scratch the itch soon.
#17
Instructor
Thread Starter
I’m just thinking the 996TT won’t get out of 2nd gear offer and over time maybe I’d enjoy an SC or 83-89 more.. That retro vibe thing. The round lights out the front.. smells, analog.
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mclaudio (09-11-2019)
#18
Sounds like you’re getting closer to a decision. Poster car for the win.
There is a couple of SC coupes for sale in Seattle area if you’re interested. The project at low $20s US; a well-preserved one in mid-$40s.
There is a couple of SC coupes for sale in Seattle area if you’re interested. The project at low $20s US; a well-preserved one in mid-$40s.
#19
Instructor
Thread Starter
Do you know if the SCs has rear seatbelts like the late 80s ones? I’m in Canada and out dollar sucks ATM. But buying US may be an option.
Te Road trip would rock.
Te Road trip would rock.
#20
Race Car
I have a Carrera and a 996TT. Totally different cars. Both make me smile.
If I had to choose, the TT would go. But having said that, if I to do a bit of driving during a work day, I'll take the TT.
Track? I drive the Carrera. Country drive. Carrera. With the wife. TT. Night time. TT.
Don't make me choose!!!
If I had to choose, the TT would go. But having said that, if I to do a bit of driving during a work day, I'll take the TT.
Track? I drive the Carrera. Country drive. Carrera. With the wife. TT. Night time. TT.
Don't make me choose!!!
#22
Pro
I have am 87 Carrera and an 05 GT3. My observations
If I was going to keep only one I would keep the 87. But both have their places
The 87 is more fun to drive on the weekend, in the backwoods. It is slower, and less capable. Getting above legal speeds takes a little longer, it is smaller, and just great to drive. I would not change much about it.
The GT3 is 3 generations better, faster, quicker, and arguably much better. But to really enjoy it you need to be on the track, it is just too fast for the street. Legal speeds are exceeded in the first 5 seconds of full throttle. 2nd gear could land you in jail. It is a fantastic car, and at the track more fun now than the 87. Not that the 87 isn't great to drive on the track it is just that everything else I am on the track with has double the horsepowers now and driving around pointing cars by is not much fun. It is a hoot to drive on the track though.
If I was going to keep only one I would keep the 87. But both have their places
The 87 is more fun to drive on the weekend, in the backwoods. It is slower, and less capable. Getting above legal speeds takes a little longer, it is smaller, and just great to drive. I would not change much about it.
The GT3 is 3 generations better, faster, quicker, and arguably much better. But to really enjoy it you need to be on the track, it is just too fast for the street. Legal speeds are exceeded in the first 5 seconds of full throttle. 2nd gear could land you in jail. It is a fantastic car, and at the track more fun now than the 87. Not that the 87 isn't great to drive on the track it is just that everything else I am on the track with has double the horsepowers now and driving around pointing cars by is not much fun. It is a hoot to drive on the track though.
#23
Instructor
Thread Starter
I have am 87 Carrera and an 05 GT3. My observations
If I was going to keep only one I would keep the 87. But both have their places
The 87 is more fun to drive on the weekend, in the backwoods. It is slower, and less capable. Getting above legal speeds takes a little longer, it is smaller, and just great to drive. I would not change much about it.
The GT3 is 3 generations better, faster, quicker, and arguably much better. But to really enjoy it you need to be on the track, it is just too fast for the street. Legal speeds are exceeded in the first 5 seconds of full throttle. 2nd gear could land you in jail. It is a fantastic car, and at the track more fun now than the 87. Not that the 87 isn't great to drive on the track it is just that everything else I am on the track with has double the horsepowers now and driving around pointing cars by is not much fun. It is a hoot to drive on the track though.
If I was going to keep only one I would keep the 87. But both have their places
The 87 is more fun to drive on the weekend, in the backwoods. It is slower, and less capable. Getting above legal speeds takes a little longer, it is smaller, and just great to drive. I would not change much about it.
The GT3 is 3 generations better, faster, quicker, and arguably much better. But to really enjoy it you need to be on the track, it is just too fast for the street. Legal speeds are exceeded in the first 5 seconds of full throttle. 2nd gear could land you in jail. It is a fantastic car, and at the track more fun now than the 87. Not that the 87 isn't great to drive on the track it is just that everything else I am on the track with has double the horsepowers now and driving around pointing cars by is not much fun. It is a hoot to drive on the track though.
Thats exactly what I have been thinking but can’t prove since I own nether and need this post to help. Yes the 996T is an underrated beast.
Realistically I’m 1hr from a track and a lot of traffic. If you do 50km over they take your car from you here. I am 3 min from back twistys and love the idea of back drives, stiff shifting old leather analog fun.
Would need 2 working back seats for the little ones and would really drive it. Starting to look Coupe 78-89 whale tail. Oh and.. it’s the poster car.
#25
I have a Carrera and a 996TT. Totally different cars. Both make me smile.
If I had to choose, the TT would go. But having said that, if I to do a bit of driving during a work day, I'll take the TT.
Track? I drive the Carrera. Country drive. Carrera. With the wife. TT. Night time. TT.
Don't make me choose!!!
If I had to choose, the TT would go. But having said that, if I to do a bit of driving during a work day, I'll take the TT.
Track? I drive the Carrera. Country drive. Carrera. With the wife. TT. Night time. TT.
Don't make me choose!!!
I have am 87 Carrera and an 05 GT3. My observations
If I was going to keep only one I would keep the 87. But both have their places
The 87 is more fun to drive on the weekend, in the backwoods. It is slower, and less capable. Getting above legal speeds takes a little longer, it is smaller, and just great to drive. I would not change much about it.
The GT3 is 3 generations better, faster, quicker, and arguably much better. But to really enjoy it you need to be on the track, it is just too fast for the street. Legal speeds are exceeded in the first 5 seconds of full throttle. 2nd gear could land you in jail. It is a fantastic car, and at the track more fun now than the 87. Not that the 87 isn't great to drive on the track it is just that everything else I am on the track with has double the horsepowers now and driving around pointing cars by is not much fun. It is a hoot to drive on the track though.
If I was going to keep only one I would keep the 87. But both have their places
The 87 is more fun to drive on the weekend, in the backwoods. It is slower, and less capable. Getting above legal speeds takes a little longer, it is smaller, and just great to drive. I would not change much about it.
The GT3 is 3 generations better, faster, quicker, and arguably much better. But to really enjoy it you need to be on the track, it is just too fast for the street. Legal speeds are exceeded in the first 5 seconds of full throttle. 2nd gear could land you in jail. It is a fantastic car, and at the track more fun now than the 87. Not that the 87 isn't great to drive on the track it is just that everything else I am on the track with has double the horsepowers now and driving around pointing cars by is not much fun. It is a hoot to drive on the track though.
Thats exactly what I have been thinking but can’t prove since I own nether and need this post to help. Yes the 996T is an underrated beast.
Realistically I’m 1hr from a track and a lot of traffic. If you do 50km over they take your car from you here. I am 3 min from back twistys and love the idea of back drives, stiff shifting old leather analog fun.
Would need 2 working back seats for the little ones and would really drive it. Starting to look Coupe 78-89 whale tail. Oh and.. it’s the poster car.
Realistically I’m 1hr from a track and a lot of traffic. If you do 50km over they take your car from you here. I am 3 min from back twistys and love the idea of back drives, stiff shifting old leather analog fun.
Would need 2 working back seats for the little ones and would really drive it. Starting to look Coupe 78-89 whale tail. Oh and.. it’s the poster car.
The SCs have 2-point seatbelts (US market and not standard). Not sure if this will meet your needs with little ones. 3-point seatbelts became standard in 1988 (US and Canada market).
I tend to agree with you and others on street fun: SC or even G-series Carrera. More fun at lower speeds. I use skinnier, winter tires all year on my 996TT for more fun at lower limits.
For daily use i.e. traffic, HVAC comfort, etc.: 996TT is preferred. I use my 996TT for pure street use with easy clutch/stick, working AC, etc. I have another car for pure fun use; and entertaining another for pure fun like a 60s Porsche or GT3 Cup/R.
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Hotshot (09-11-2019)
#26
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My SC came with the bolts and bolt holes but no belts. I bought the seatbelts and added them. Look for the bolts and holes if you don’t see the actual seat belts. Very easy add.
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Hotshot (09-11-2019)
#27
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#28
Team Owner
i cant believe someone could be that dumb....
a quick visit to Randy at Whaletale and i had all the hardened steel shoulder bolts i needed...
some people ...
#29
I was in a similar position as you, albeit I was cross shopping G-bodies with a 997.2 S or a 991.1 (I'm just a huge fan of NA motors)
I ended up with an 89 carrera with a whale tail and couldn't be happier.
Buying a Porsche is (usually) an emotional one, so go with your heart on this one. I was like you where I wanted a modern car, but at every car meet I always found myself in the air-cooled section.
I can confirm though, that the "old dream car" feeling you speak of is the best.... This was the car I dreamed about driving when I was a kid without a license. The 996TT is one of the best Porsche deals you can buy today, but nothing I've ever driven feels as good as my G-body 911. The lack of power steering and go-kart feel, the vintage smell, the whale tail, and the joy of learning how to work on a (somewhat) simple machine.
A lot of people are talking about creature comforts but I never saw this argument unless it would be your DD which from your OP, it won't be. I've never been one to care about creature comforts in my weekend cars. I have a DD to get me to work and through the winter months. When I'm in the 911, all I care about is having a raw, analog, and connected driving experience, which the 911SC will offer in great magnitudes.
I ended up with an 89 carrera with a whale tail and couldn't be happier.
Buying a Porsche is (usually) an emotional one, so go with your heart on this one. I was like you where I wanted a modern car, but at every car meet I always found myself in the air-cooled section.
I can confirm though, that the "old dream car" feeling you speak of is the best.... This was the car I dreamed about driving when I was a kid without a license. The 996TT is one of the best Porsche deals you can buy today, but nothing I've ever driven feels as good as my G-body 911. The lack of power steering and go-kart feel, the vintage smell, the whale tail, and the joy of learning how to work on a (somewhat) simple machine.
A lot of people are talking about creature comforts but I never saw this argument unless it would be your DD which from your OP, it won't be. I've never been one to care about creature comforts in my weekend cars. I have a DD to get me to work and through the winter months. When I'm in the 911, all I care about is having a raw, analog, and connected driving experience, which the 911SC will offer in great magnitudes.
#30
Instructor
Thread Starter
That’s exactly what I’m after. I don’t work out of an office so dailying may be a 3 min school drop off followed but enjoying a day on backroads.
I have a 5 speed civic as a winter beater or salt on road car.
I have a 5 speed civic as a winter beater or salt on road car.