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Old 07-29-2017, 01:25 AM
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An interesting comp, even though there are some significant differences.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...g-example.html
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1971S missing the motor and tranny. And modified to look like a M491....

You could drive it as is and claim it to be an abortion of some sorts.
Or you could painfully restore $$ it back to stock and look for a correct motor, maybe even find the original.

Once you are down to the bare metal and see the flairs, you might consider making it a RSR and keep the motor. (That is what i would do.)

$35 low, $45k high depending on condition of body and if engine is real deal.

Be prepaid to spend time and money on it no matter what.
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Offer 50k and take the gamble. Get it it home and figure it out. Worst case you have a 911s chassis and that is worth something. Best case its a real RS motor. Regardless, there is a huge amount of work to make it an original 911S if you can find the motor/trans.
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Originally Posted by Dave Inc.
Bizarre. Looks like they put a bodykit on it to make it look like an early turbo.
Back in the day.. that's what they did to the older 911's. Everyone wanted and SC or Turbo once they were released. However they were so expensive for the times that many were upgraded to look like impact bumper cars.

Originally Posted by Surge74
I would recommend buying the Excellence Magazine digital buyers' guide.
For $5, you can't beat it. It lists values for each model, as well as what to look out for.
Hagertys is also good as a guide for value.
Screw both Excellence and Hagerty in this case.. see below.

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VINs didn't exist prior to 1981...that's a serial number.
Clearlythat is a Vin number and yes they did exist.

Originally Posted by tcsracing1
1971S missing the motor and tranny. And modified to look like a M491....

You could drive it as is and claim it to be an abortion of some sorts.
Or you could painfully restore $$ it back to stock and look for a correct motor, maybe even find the original.

Once you are down to the bare metal and see the flairs, you might consider making it a RSR and keep the motor. (That is what i would do.)

$35 low, $45k high depending on condition of body and if engine is real deal.

Be prepaid to spend time and money on it no matter what.
If that is in fact an RS motor, it alone is worth as much as or more than whole car. In this case the original motor and trans would be irrelevant even if the body were stock.. if it is a true 911/83 engine.

Personally, I would bring it back as a long hood, get rid of the sunroof, keep the flares, correct the interior mods, and have fun. This all based of course on if the price is right, and that is in fact a true 911/83 engine.
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Originally Posted by 911Dave
VINs didn't exist prior to 1981...that's a serial number.
Fake news!

That is in fact the Vehicle Identification number.......Due diligence fellas Porsche 101
Old 07-30-2017, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by onboost
Back in the day.. that's what they did to the older 911's. Everyone wanted and SC or Turbo once they were released. However they were so expensive for the times that many were upgraded to look like impact bumper cars.Screw both Excellence and Hagerty in this case.. see below.Clearlythat is a Vin number and yes they did exist.If that is in fact an RS motor, it alone is worth as much as or more than whole car. In this case the original motor and trans would be irrelevant even if the body were stock.. if it is a true 911/83 engine.

Personally, I would bring it back as a long hood, get rid of the sunroof, keep the flares, correct the interior mods, and have fun. This all based of course on if the price is right, and that is in fact a true 911/83 engine.

Great info !!

What is your right price on this car ? Large estimate ?
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Got another local car: minimal info on this one:

1973 911 S
-Looks like all original everything. Everything seems to be in tact.
-matching engine and chassis
-supposed engine rebuild in 1995, minimal miles on rebuilt motor.
-body is well below average condition, original paint I believe but in dire need of a refresh.
-Car does not start, claimed to be an electronic issue, I do trust this mans words, as he is truthful without a doubt, he claims "fuel and wiring repair errors" performed at a non porsche dealer made the car no longer start.

What's your ballpark on this one?
Sorry guys I have a line on two early 70's cars that I have finally tracked down. Both seems like excellent choices depending on price. Just need a good estimate.
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Old 07-30-2017, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tcomegna
Got another local car: minimal info on this one:

1973 911 S
-Looks like all original everything. Everything seems to be in tact.
-matching engine and chassis
-supposed engine rebuild in 1995, minimal miles on rebuilt motor.
-body is well below average condition, original paint I believe but in dire need of a refresh.
-Car does not start, claimed to be an electronic issue, I do trust this mans words, as he is truthful without a doubt, he claims "fuel and wiring repair errors" performed at a non porsche dealer made the car no longer start.

What's your ballpark on this one?
Sorry guys I have a line on two early 70's cars that I have finally tracked down. Both seems like excellent choices depending on price. Just need a good estimate.
Are you sure that's a 1973? It looks more like a 1974 with the impact bumpers and those headlights.
Old 07-30-2017, 10:31 PM
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If that's a 1973, then it's not original at all. Someone has converted it to impact bumpers. That means new bumpers and new front fenders, also a short hood. I'm betting it is really a 1974.

Do you have any numbers (VIN, engine type, etc)?

Visible rust on the door and the door jamb area, under the rear quarter window. Probably a lot more you can't see. Tread carefully.

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Correction i believe it's a 74. Thanks guys !
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Id take the first car before this one. Take a gamble with the first one and offer $40K. If it's a real RS motor, you win. If not, you break even or take a slight loss.

Originally Posted by Tcomegna
Correction i believe it's a 74. Thanks guys !
Old 07-31-2017, 12:51 AM
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That 74 has rust, both visible and hidden.

Lets rewind. Whats your budget? What do you want out of this car? We can help you narrow your search if you share with us.
Old 07-31-2017, 08:18 AM
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Yes, also what's local? There may be people here happy to help.

The difference in pricing between a 74S and a 73 and earlier S is immense, nobody would cross shop those two models. Even a bastardized TMU with unknown engine is going to be looked at by a different kind of buyer. In my view, that's not a car for beginners, and 9 times out of 10 the seller will know exactly what he's selling, but I don't want to be the one who deters you from maybe the deal of a lifetime.

At any rate be very careful when you talk with sellers because if they sense some confusion they'll **** you ferociously. You don't want to pay longhood S money for a Middie.

And I still think you might want to check out the early911s website. If it's a true RS engine someone there knows the story.
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Originally Posted by Tcomegna
Got another local car: minimal info on this one:

1973 911 S
-Looks like all original everything. Everything seems to be in tact.
-matching engine and chassis
-supposed engine rebuild in 1995, minimal miles on rebuilt motor.
-body is well below average condition, original paint I believe but in dire need of a refresh.
-Car does not start, claimed to be an electronic issue, I do trust this mans words, as he is truthful without a doubt, he claims "fuel and wiring repair errors" performed at a non porsche dealer made the car no longer start.

What's your ballpark on this one?
Sorry guys I have a line on two early 70's cars that I have finally tracked down. Both seems like excellent choices depending on price. Just need a good estimate.

1974 project.
$15 low, 25k high.
Old 07-31-2017, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by onboost

If that is in fact an RS motor, it alone is worth as much as or more than whole car. In this case the original motor and trans would be irrelevant even if the body were stock.. if it is a true 911/83 engine.
My guess is the engine is a 2.7 from a 74-77 Carrera.
I cant see it being from a 1973RS.


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