Security of Spyder top when parking on the street
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Trying to figure out if the Spyder RS would be an option for me.
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
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I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
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Any fabric top convertible can be cut. The alarm will go off if the pull tabs are used and the car is locked. And the interior sensors should kick the alarm off if the roof were cut and someone tried to get in. It’s goin to be no different than any other fabric roof.
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I still think they’d just break the window. I’ve never felt “insecure” and I’ve parked it (overnight sometimes) in many exposed areas.
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Not sure if the 718 has interior sensors, but the 911 does and any movement inside the car once activated and the alarm starts screaming as well as a ping to your porsche app.
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Trying to figure out if the Spyder RS would be an option for me.
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
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Trying to figure out if the Spyder RS would be an option for me.
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
I don’t think a 911 or 718 Cab has “plate top”. They are multi layered and insulated fabric tops. The Spyder and Spyder RS are single layer canvas.
Street parking? You mean like daily?
Maybe look at a Boxster GTS for better Seattle manners, the RS ain’t that.
Oh, and why wouldn’t you be able to use the trunk much?
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It's a convertible, same as any other convertible; inherently easy to get into.
You don't leave anything of value in a convertible, at least in the cabin. Heck, in any car in an area which exposes it to break in.
You don't leave anything of value in a convertible, at least in the cabin. Heck, in any car in an area which exposes it to break in.
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If someone wants to vandalize your car, or pilfer what's inside, they'll do it, regardless of whether it's a convertible soft top or hardtop, or just a regular car.
Humans, there's no stopping them.
Humans, there's no stopping them.
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I had a Spyder, and have no additional concerns parking the SRS somewhere. Even leaving the back part open, most people walking by won't notice and just think it's a convertible top.
I would not park the SRS anywhere I wouldn't feel comfortable parking, say, a GT4 RS or similar. Has nothing to do with the top (I'm more worried about door dings and general vandalism).
I would not park the SRS anywhere I wouldn't feel comfortable parking, say, a GT4 RS or similar. Has nothing to do with the top (I'm more worried about door dings and general vandalism).
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Trying to figure out if the Spyder RS would be an option for me.
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
I like the idea of a slightly softer ride, slightly more distant induction, and could probably live with slightly worse rear vis (top up). Live in the Pacific Northwest so would probably leave the top up and could probably live with not using the trunk (much).
My biggest question is, is the top secure for street parking? It seems like even the base Spyder if you know how you could start unclipping and the RS has pull tabs? Not sure if that's universal.
Seems like someone could cut the top to get in - is that accurate? Would the alarm go off?
And/or if they just started unclipping the roof to get in under the back of it, would that work without it being released inside? Would the alarm go off?
Generally do people feel safe street parking it and it not being more of a "target" than a 911 cab which (I think) has harder plate tops?
Thanks
More importantly, what do you mean by street parking?
For example, do you live in a city and intend to park your Spyder RS on a public street for a permanent daily and overnight parking solution?
—> This is absolutely not advisable. I think we can all agree Spyder RS isn’t a car for this.
Or by street parking do you mean occasional stops and parking in parallel parking spots while you’re at breakfast, lunch, dinner, or a shopping center?
—> What would make Spyder RS any different in this scenario than any of your other cars? Do you have other luxury cars that you are careful with when you park in these scenarios? The same would apply to Spyder RS — except the highest of public parking standards should apply to Spyder RS (like only the best spots where nobody is closely adjacent, valet guy doesn’t drive it, etc)
Look. Bad people generally don’t steal car radios anymore. Even some homeless people seem to have smartphones. People generally aren’t breaking into cars these days in the US during the day or during dinner hours in a good area where there are people around. Where will the Spyder RS be parked while you’re shopping or out for breakfast lunch or dinner? In a high crime locality or in a good-to-high class area?
Obviously, it is not recommended to park a car like Spyder RS outside anywhere overnight that isn’t your hotel while on a road trip; and even then, steps need to be taken. Other than that, I don’t see how the convertible top features are a factor here if you want to park the car smartly in a good area during hours when there are people around and businesses operating. If you own other luxury cars and have experience being as careful as you can, then I think this is a moot point.
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The comparison comments at top…what are they in relation to? Softer ride, reduced induction, rear visibility…?
I don’t think a 911 or 718 Cab has “plate top”. They are multi layered and insulated fabric tops. The Spyder and Spyder RS are single layer canvas.
Street parking? You mean like daily?
Maybe look at a Boxster GTS for better Seattle manners, the RS ain’t that.
Oh, and why wouldn’t you be able to use the trunk much?
I don’t think a 911 or 718 Cab has “plate top”. They are multi layered and insulated fabric tops. The Spyder and Spyder RS are single layer canvas.
Street parking? You mean like daily?
Maybe look at a Boxster GTS for better Seattle manners, the RS ain’t that.
Oh, and why wouldn’t you be able to use the trunk much?
Ride commentary was more re: GT4 RS vs Sypder RS, have read / watched that the ride is notice-ably softer (have no problem with the GT4 ride...)
Concern was just parking for a few hours at a time, sorry I wasn't specific, not regular or overnight parking.
If motion (or even pulling tabs) gets attention that's probably good enough, especially usually I'd be parking in outer areas where I'd probably be pretty close.
Thanks all for the info.
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I was under the impression that you had to release the top (not sure if fully retract or just release it a bit) to get into the trunk? I don't fill the frunk on a 911.2 C4S which would be more regularly used anyway, and I have wagon/SUV options if needed too so not really concerned there, but it did seem like something that owners commented on.
Ultimately the question (for me) is for someone who wants a "GT4 RS touring" but doesn't prefer convertible, is the Spyder RS a good alternative to getting a GT4 RS and removing the wing/adjusting front aero and perhaps using earplugs if needed. Right now I think the 718 GT4 could do with being a bit louder inside so even that might not be an issue...
Ultimately the question (for me) is for someone who wants a "GT4 RS touring" but doesn't prefer convertible, is the Spyder RS a good alternative to getting a GT4 RS and removing the wing/adjusting front aero and perhaps using earplugs if needed. Right now I think the 718 GT4 could do with being a bit louder inside so even that might not be an issue...
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You don't want to park any convertible out in public for any extended period of time if you can help it.
Back in the day. we used to have to buy "seat locks" to help prevent Honda S2000 seats from being stolen. (Think Wheel Locks, but for the seat bolts.) I am genuinely surprised that I have yet to see any posts on these Porsche forums where someone's Carbon Buckets were stolen from a convertible, given their very high resale value and untraceability ...
Back in the day. we used to have to buy "seat locks" to help prevent Honda S2000 seats from being stolen. (Think Wheel Locks, but for the seat bolts.) I am genuinely surprised that I have yet to see any posts on these Porsche forums where someone's Carbon Buckets were stolen from a convertible, given their very high resale value and untraceability ...
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You don't want to park any convertible out in public for any extended period of time if you can help it.
Back in the day. we used to have to buy "seat locks" to help prevent Honda S2000 seats from being stolen. (Think Wheel Locks, but for the seat bolts.) I am genuinely surprised that I have yet to see any posts on these Porsche forums where someone's Carbon Buckets were stolen from a convertible, given their very high resale value and untraceability ...
Back in the day. we used to have to buy "seat locks" to help prevent Honda S2000 seats from being stolen. (Think Wheel Locks, but for the seat bolts.) I am genuinely surprised that I have yet to see any posts on these Porsche forums where someone's Carbon Buckets were stolen from a convertible, given their very high resale value and untraceability ...
All convertibles are inherently more prone to theft and vandalism than hardtops. There's nothing specific about the Spyder RS that makes it more or less protected against theft than other convertibles.
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This exact thing happened to me in 2001. The seats were stolen from my S2000, which was parked in my covered but outdoor parking stall at a nice apartment complex in San Francisco. Two very small, almost imperceptible incisions were made in the soft top near the latches, and the seats were removed.
All convertibles are inherently more prone to theft and vandalism than hardtops. There's nothing specific about the Spyder RS that makes it more or less protected against theft than other convertibles.
All convertibles are inherently more prone to theft and vandalism than hardtops. There's nothing specific about the Spyder RS that makes it more or less protected against theft than other convertibles.
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