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Old 02-13-2024 | 07:36 PM
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We still have out 981 GTS and will have that after we eventually sell the GT4RS
981GTS is fun to drive everyday.
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Old 02-13-2024 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AnandN
Because they are ridden hard, put away wet and then put up for sale for the next sucker. hahaha.
I am guessing (as a Boxster 25 owner) that GT4s and GT3s sound very nice in theory but probably are a bit much as daily drivers if they are not track cars. Of course someone will chime in and correct me that they drive their GT4 or GT3 everyday and get groceries in it.
Mine is my "daily". I use daily lightly though as I work form home, but it is my only car. It is driven in all weather and sees the grocery store parking lot a couple times a week.

29K miles in a little over two years.

I plan to drive it into the ground (hopefully that will equate to at least 120K miles)
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Old 02-13-2024 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by shawfm
We still have out 981 GTS and will have that after we eventually sell the GT4RS
981GTS is fun to drive everyday.
981 GTS? Man, that is the best! I still miss my 981S Boxster. The 4 liter,while more pwerful, sounds like crap compared to that 3.4. Also arguably, the 981 is a more beautiful car.
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Old 02-13-2024 | 08:28 PM
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In addition, there might be a large portion of 718 GTS 4.0 buyers in the market that see no chances they get their hands on an allocation, and at this point, I’d be very leery if I was adding a buildable allocation of the GTS to my wish-list. These people are more than likely sitting there looking for the right used spec and jumping on the first one that comes close.

GT cars tend to have the shortest lifespan from owner to owner than other models in the lineup, it just is what it is. I’ve given up caring as to why this happens, or to care about the obvious reasons bc its none of my business, doesn’t effect me. Im not buying another new GT Porsche for a very long time, nor any new models - my heart is set on getting an older 911 to pair with my current GT.

I DD my GT4 for roughly 7 months, and 12,000 miles. I still wish I could keep up with the miles, but thats not my concern anymore - its all the other a$$hat drivers out there, and the more seat time I have “commuting” = the greater the chance I get caught up in someone else’s accident. She does see the weekly early am grocery run, and the causal trips to the plant with the pup in the passenger seat weekly.
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Old 02-14-2024 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AnandN
981 GTS? Man, that is the best! I still miss my 981S Boxster. The 4 liter,while more pwerful, sounds like crap compared to that 3.4. Also arguably, the 981 is a more beautiful car.
As an owner of a 981S with PSE and also a fan of the 718 GTS 4.0, I'm curious what you find more beautiful about the 981?

I know it's all subjective, but am genuinely interested to hear what you like/dislike.
Old 02-14-2024 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WGJP 993
As an owner of a 981S with PSE and also a fan of the 718 GTS 4.0, I'm curious what you find more beautiful about the 981?

I know it's all subjective, but am genuinely interested to hear what you like/dislike.
To my eyes, the 981 has softer lines which appeals more to me. In profile as well as from the front and rear. My 2022 and 2013.




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Old 02-14-2024 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by omaralt
i've always thought that the GT cars were special and limited production. I've also noticed the same thing with the 992 GT3; tons of them for sale with minimal miles but very little S/GTS for sale. is this normal?
Yes, that's normal.
Before GTS4.0 there was (apparently, which is all most folks needs, appearance) a really tiny difference between S and GTS and that alone contributed to selling more GT4 than GTS (4 cyl. 2.5).
Some 3 years ago arrived GTS4.0 (which I happily enjoyed) and balance of power changed in favour of GTS4.0 against (again, apparently) only slightly more powerful winged GT4.

So, to me, more GT4 than GTS on the market makes sense.

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Old 02-14-2024 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AnandN
Because they are ridden hard, put away wet and then put up for sale for the next sucker. hahaha.
I am guessing (as a Boxster 25 owner) that GT4s and GT3s sound very nice in theory but probably are a bit much as daily drivers if they are not track cars. Of course someone will chime in and correct me that they drive their GT4 or GT3 everyday and get groceries in it.
I think it's this exactly. I'd expect lots of GT4s and GT3s to have 4 owners in 5 years. I'd expect that the average GT4RS and SpyderRS to 6 owners in 5 years.
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Old 02-14-2024 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AnandN
To my eyes, the 981 has softer lines which appeals more to me. In profile as well as from the front and rear. My 2022 and 2013.



As a current 718 owner and former 981 owner, I too find the 981 more beautiful. I think the rear end treatment is more elegant on the 981, in particular.
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Old 02-14-2024 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BoxKing
GT cars tend to have the shortest lifespan from owner to owner than other models in the lineup, it just is what it is. I’ve given up caring as to why this happens, or to care about the obvious reasons bc its none of my business, doesn’t effect me.
I think this is the fundamental reason you see more GT4's then GTS cars out there. I suspect a lot of people get a GT car because they can afford it and think it's the "best" Porsche, but then find that it's really not something they enjoy driving. Maybe they get tired of looking like a boy-racer with that wing out back, or they don't like getting in or out of the optional bucket seats. Or maybe they like the fact that they can drive it for a year, and sell it for not much less than they paid for it as long as they keep the mileage reasonable.

Heck, I'm 99% sure I'd have a GT4 in the garage right now instead of the '22 CGTS if Porsche had offered a Touring option on the GT4. But I spend 90% of my time on the road, and just 10% at the track - and I simply didn't want that wing. No real complaints with the GTS, but I'm going back to PS4S tires after the current Cup2 tires wear out...for that 90% of time I spend on the street, the Cup2's are arguably worse than the original PS4S tires were. I plan on holding onto my GTS for a long time. It's conceivable I could even end up holding onto it longer than any other car in my history, which is 16 years (2004 BMW 330i ZHP) or 9 years for my semi-track Miata (2006 NC).

We also have to remember that the people here on RL are not necessarily the average P-car buyer. So any sample here would be skewed - including mine!
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Old 02-14-2024 | 10:51 AM
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I think it's possible the GTS pricing creeping so close to GT4 may have hurt the GTS sales on the new market.
Old 02-14-2024 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AnandN
Because they are ridden hard, put away wet and then put up for sale for the next sucker. hahaha.
I am guessing (as a Boxster 25 owner) that GT4s and GT3s sound very nice in theory but probably are a bit much as daily drivers if they are not track cars. Of course someone will chime in and correct me that they drive their GT4 or GT3 everyday and get groceries in it.
I DD my Spyder and get gorceries and have gone to Costco in it.
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Old 02-14-2024 | 02:05 PM
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They made the 981 GT4 for one year, they made the 718 GT4 for 3 so there's a good number sold, around 3,200. When you look at it that way, 16 cars for sale in a 500 mile radius isn't much. A quick looks at cars.com shows 80 for sale. So right now if you include auction sites, private party other places lets call it 85 roughly. That's 2.5-3.0% of the total GT4's in the USA for sale. People interpret data in different ways, but to me that says there are a lot of people that really like their GT4's and aren't selling them.
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Old 02-14-2024 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by donR
The GTS shares the market with the S which is essentially the same so my thinking is a lot of people end up buying the S and base so not many GTS as not really any improvement. Next step up is really GT4 or Spyder.
How is a 4.0 na essentially the same as a four cylinder turbo? Maybe if you are comparing spec sheets but the driving experience is fundamentaly different.
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Old 02-14-2024 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by neteng101
There's more GT4RS (25+) than GTS 4.0 (10) Caymans on the Porsche US new+used inventory for sale too!
@neteng101 How are you able to search across the full US in the Porsche Finder tool? For me, the filter for location radius is 500 miles max. Is there a way to extend the search range?


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