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BlueSpotAutowrks 01-09-2024 07:07 PM

GT4/Sypder/GT4RS/SRS Aero Developement Thread - Blue Spot Autowerks
 
We all know that the Porsche 718 GT4 is an exceptional vehicle straight from the showroom, ready to conquer the racetrack. Yet, as any enthusiast knows, there's always room for improvement. One area that caught my attention was the car's Aero package. While the factory rear wing provided two settings for downforce adjustment, I craved more.

Exploring options to enhance downforce, I initially considered raising the rear wing. However, I aimed for a balance that wouldn't compromise the low downforce setting or the car's aesthetics. Further research revealed an alternative – additional Angle of Attack (AoA) settings by incorporating more mounting hole positions to the wing riser brackets. And so, the journey to combine reasonable extra height with an additional AoA position began.

The Phases of Innovation:

Phase 1: Model and Study I meticulously studied and fully modeled the factory riser bracket in 3D CAD, drawing on my extensive career experience. The result was a model aligned with the OEM's published AoA settings, serving as a baseline for design.

Phase 2: Integration of Changes I extended the vertical supports by 24mm, providing extra height, and simultaneously reinforced them to handle potential increased downforce values. An additional front mounting hole was added to achieve 3 degrees of AoA from the factory high-downforce setting.

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Phase 3: Prototyping Utilizing my FDM 3D printer, I created initial parts in ABS, refining the design through multiple iterations. The fit was commendable, prompting a move to the next phase.


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Phase 4: Functional PrototypeOutsourcing work, I had a set of risers crafted in Aluminum alloy, undergoing test fits, finishing touches, and a sleek Flat Black paint job. The moment of truth arrived as I mounted them onto the car, marveling at the transformation.

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Phase 5: Real-world Testing Venturing into the real world, I tested the risers through street driving, autocross, and track days at Portland International Raceway. With around 100 laps on the prototypes, each lap hitting approximately 140 MPH twice, the risers proved sturdy, showcasing noticeable changes in aero balance, especially in high speed turns.

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Phase 6: Refinement and Community Feedback Incorporating valuable feedback from the community, I refined the design, enhancing visual aspects, and offering both standard and 24mm taller versions to cater to diverse preferences within the GT4 community. The initial production parts are expected to be available later this week or next. Stay tuned for updates on the final product, which will be posted here.

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Final Phase: Business VentureThe positive response to the riser brackets, coupled with the demand for additional products, led to the realization that Blue Spot Autowerks was more than just a passion project. In the latter part of 2023, I formalized plans for the launch of Blue Spot Autowerks, marking the beginning of an exciting venture into the world of high-performance automotive enhancements.

For those who pre-order, use Code RLFSBSA for Free Shipping in the lower 48 States.

Stay tuned for more updates Blue Spot Autowerks! Our rear exhaust diffusers For all GT4/Spyder/GT4RS/SRS are in development now!

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Josh_357 01-09-2024 07:47 PM

Accidental Post....

BlueSpotAutowrks 01-09-2024 07:53 PM

Fit testing this week for the base panel. Functional prototypes next week!

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sin911 01-09-2024 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by BlueSpotAutowrks (Post 19210007)
Fit testing this week for the base panel. Functional prototypes next week!

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Nice! I was thinking of developing a product like this actually :) seems like you guys beat me to it. Looking forward to the results. Will it be able to work with aftermarket mufflers?

BlueSpotAutowrks 01-09-2024 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by sin911 (Post 19210015)
Nice! I was thinking of developing a product like this actually :) seems like you guys beat me to it. Looking forward to the results. Will it be able to work with aftermarket mufflers?

These will only fit when cars with aftermarket exhausts with no lower chamber. Stock and Akrapovic are examples with known fitment interference issues. We cannot check all aftermarket exhausts for fitment, but the donor car for development has a Kline system. The diffuser is constructed from 5052 Aluminum, while the vanes boast impact-resistant PVC for durability. The Aluminum will be powder coated matte black.

burnergt4 01-09-2024 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by BlueSpotAutowrks (Post 19209910)

Am I right in saying that the "standard" part in the center is essentially what MR does for the rear wing aero?

BlueSpotAutowrks 01-09-2024 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by burnergt4 (Post 19210146)
Am I right in saying that the "standard" part in the center is essentially what MR does for the rear wing aero?

It is similar, but not the same. I've borrowed the image from @TDT where OEM is top, and MR is bottom. Our product has 3 settings, where as MR has two. I believe MR increases the AoA on both low and high setting, where as our product give you low, high and even-higher :).

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BlueSpotAutowrks 01-10-2024 11:22 PM

First article production parts have arrived today. Going for paint next week and confirming fitment!
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Richard. 01-11-2024 02:59 AM

great work!

sin911 01-11-2024 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by BlueSpotAutowrks (Post 19210026)
These will only fit when cars with aftermarket exhausts with no lower chamber. Stock and Akrapovic are examples with known fitment interference issues. We cannot check all aftermarket exhausts for fitment, but the donor car for development has a Kline system. The diffuser is constructed from 5052 Aluminum, while the vanes boast impact-resistant PVC for durability. The Aluminum will be powder coated matte black.

That makes sense about exhaust with no lower chambers. Have you guys tested heat from the pipes/muffler? Will the actual pieces have any ventilation?

BBermann 01-11-2024 10:25 AM

Both products look useful- looking forward to learning price point and availability!

BlueSpotAutowrks 01-11-2024 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by sin911 (Post 19212617)
That makes sense about exhaust with no lower chambers. Have you guys tested heat from the pipes/muffler? Will the actual pieces have any ventilation?

We will keep as much space or more between the pipes and the Diffuser as there is to the stock Diffuser. However, we can't check every exhaust on the market, so some fitments may vary. Heavy duty testing will have to wait until track season returns here in the PNW. The Diffuser panel will be powder coated Aluminum which will have great heat tolerance. The vanes underneath will be Delrin for great wear characteristics if scrapes occur, Delrin also has good thermal resistance for a Plastic. More clearance photos to come as development progresses.


Originally Posted by BBermann (Post 19212622)
Both products look useful- looking forward to learning price point and availability!

Check out our website for more info on these topics!

burnergt4 01-11-2024 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by BlueSpotAutowrks (Post 19212118)
First article production parts have arrived today. Going for paint next week and confirming fitment!

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Looks great! Don't know if it's beyond your remit, but I suspect many buyers would be getting these in lieu of aftermarket wing risers, as they're easier to install and the "tall" option bumps the height a decent amount. Given that, it'd probably be useful to have some kind of size comparison between the tall version and, say, the BBi and RSNV risers.

BlueSpotAutowrks 01-11-2024 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by burnergt4 (Post 19213075)
Looks great! Don't know if it's beyond your remit, but I suspect many buyers would be getting these in lieu of aftermarket wing risers, as they're easier to install and the "tall" option bumps the height a decent amount. Given that, it'd probably be useful to have some kind of size comparison between the tall version and, say, the BBi and RSNV risers.

We will be doing some more install images, we can try to highlight best we can. Generally most upright risers are +3-3.5 inches I know of one at +80mm. Our tall version is +24mm or almost 1” rise.

Fractal-Spyder 01-11-2024 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by BlueSpotAutowrks (Post 19213091)
We will be doing some more install images, we can try to highlight best we can. Generally most upright risers are +3-3.5 inches I know of one at +80mm. Our tall version is +24mm or almost 1” rise.

I have JCR. will they be compatible? 718 Spyder & SRS inbound.


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