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Old 05-10-2023, 05:56 PM
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Default Spyder RS "roof" major concerns

The new car is great but has a massive Achilles heel.

I thought the 718 Spyder roof was poor in terms of usability (compared to the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 roof which can be operated from inside the car easily), but the Spyder RS roof is even worse than I imagined. It seems like a similar challenge to the notorious 987 Boxster Spyder roof, perhaps a bit more challenging with the wider car.

Imagine what would happen in rain / excessive sun / heat / excessive cold / many other situations - it takes two minutes to put on - with two experienced people working in tandem, and that does not include putting on the rear window. Even when you know what you’re doing and have someone willing and able to help you, it’s not a quick or easy process.
The Spyder RS roof is worse than the 911 Speedster.

And when the roof is on, the roof does not seem to be very useful, with no videos showing the window going in - and with max speed limitations (or else the roof gets damaged).


Given that I don't live in paradise full time, I'm looking for a way to make this car somewhat livable!
My best idea for a fix so far (other than buying a house and garage in San Diego and never parking or driving it anywhere else )
is to get 718 Spyder parts and upgrade it to that roof. Those pesky air intakes may be problematically located, but it may be possible to work around this.

Does anyone here know if it may be possible (based on parts diagrams) to retrofit a 718 Spyder roof at a minimum?
Or any other ideas for possible aftermarket improvement?

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It’s a shame they don’t make a hardtop version of this vehicle for all the ragtop haters…🙄
Old 05-10-2023, 05:57 PM
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To see the roof being put on and taken off, check out these videos:


3 min 56 s mark
(this video also shows him trying it by himself, and actually failing)


18 min 15 s mark (may want to turn on CC and auto-translate if you don't speak German)

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Old 05-10-2023, 06:11 PM
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I also do have questions about the roof as someone who will never be able to afford this car. it does seem a very interesting choice. I'm really curious on the real world experience.

That being said i freaking love how the front lip looks and i wonder if i can add it to my GT4 and if it would ruin it....it might.
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Just for giggles, lol



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It’s a shame they don’t make a hardtop version of this vehicle for all the ragtop haters…🙄
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Old 05-10-2023, 06:46 PM
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Is this thread for reals? The roof was not designed this way to make it more difficult for people to put it up, it's only purpose for being designed this way was for the air intakes on the deck lid.

Sounds like this car is not for you, or anyone else having a sook over the roof
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While you’re trying to fit spyder roof over the intakes might as well try to get a manual transmission in there too!
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@sirtom The 718 Spyder manual roof is fine. It's not "poor in terms of usability" by any means. It takes 40 seconds to put up or down and then you have the best looking Porsche of all time. The new roof is designed to have the necessary space for the motor and intakes. There will be no way possible to get the Spyder roof to work with the Spyder RS. If you own 1 of these I'm sure you will have the top down 99% of the time like I do with my Spyder.

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I LOVE this roof! It's very close to the light-weight, quick to don and doff, Gen-1 Spyder "sun0-shade" 2-piece roof.

I DISLIKE immensley the 981/982 roof - it's heavy, hard to pull up out of the storage well (have to reach over, twist your back. tug up etc..), and has the ridiculous electric clamp that I have to limbo back into the drivers seat to secure. Such over-engineered BS.

Bravo to Porsche for bringing this back to the RS! The only short coming that I see is that the back lid does not "spring" the roof with tension like the Gen-1 did.

(I'm serious).


P.s. I drive my Spyder with the rood stored 98% of the time.

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Originally Posted by sirtom
The new car is great but has a massive Achilles heel.

I thought the 718 Spyder roof was poor in terms of usability (compared to the 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 roof which can be operated from inside the car easily), but the Spyder RS roof is even worse than I imagined. It seems like a similar challenge to the notorious 987 Boxster Spyder roof, perhaps a bit more challenging with the wider car.

Imagine what would happen in rain / excessive sun / heat / excessive cold / many other situations - it takes two minutes to put on - with two experienced people working in tandem, and that does not include putting on the rear window. Even when you know what you’re doing and have someone willing and able to help you, it’s not a quick or easy process.
The Spyder RS roof is worse than the 911 Speedster.

And when the roof is on, the roof does not seem to be very useful, with no videos showing the window going in - and with max speed limitations (or else the roof gets damaged).


Given that I don't live in paradise full time, I'm looking for a way to make this car somewhat livable!
My best idea for a fix so far (other than buying a house and garage in San Diego and never parking or driving it anywhere else )
is to get 718 Spyder parts and upgrade it to that roof. Those pesky air intakes may be problematically located, but it may be possible to work around this.

Does anyone here know if it may be possible (based on parts diagrams) to retrofit a 718 Spyder roof at a minimum?
Or any other ideas for possible aftermarket improvement?
I'd really like to know if the roof on really seals the cabin or not. During really cold/hot weather or storage I can't conceive having a car not sealing properly.

I do love the roadster GT car concept but still want to use it on the real world.
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It isnt a road car, its a track car. Roof is acceptable for that use-case, other than the top speed limitation.
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
I LOVE this roof! It's very close to the light-weight, quick to don and doff, Gen-1 Spyder rool.

DISLIKE immensley the 981/982 roof - it's heavy, hard to pull up out of the storage well, and has the ridiculous electric clamp that I have to limbo back into the drivers seat to secure.

Bravo to Porsche for bringing this back to the RS! The only short coming that I see is that the back lid does not "spring" the rood with tension like the Gen-1 did.

(I'm serious).


P.s. I drive my Spyder with the rood stored 98% of the time.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s the return to the original Spyder tops of yesteryear. Weight savings is huge.

I really like the quote “a convertible can be driven with the top down where a Spyder can be driven with the top up”.

BTW I see the SRS as the ultimate AX and twisty back roads car.
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What is the money above MSRP is expected for this car?


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