Assad Jarrahian

Hi folks,
I am at 3800 miles with my '23 Spyder (majority of it being hard mountain driving over 100 days of ownership with 1k miles of it being the AP break in procedure) and was just expecting to get the oil changed at 10k at the dealership but a friend with lots of Porsche experience in passing mentioned I should seriously think about getting the oil change done now and then again at 10k. Does anyone have experience with this? Would love to hear from folks who have kept their cars long term (15k+ miles) of it has actually made a difference or not?

Also, any place online you recommend for buying the oil/parts so I can hand it to my local indy shop to get it done if I land up going ahead with the pre-10k oil change?

Thanks!

Zhao

It's time or mileage. Very few people will hit the mileage limit for the oil in a Spyder. I change mine yearly before I park it regardless of mileage.

BabyNSX

I did my first oil change at around that milage and will be getting my second oil change (1 year mark) at the current milage of 7k later this week. I run the car pretty hard and didn't feel comfortable waiting an entire year to flush out the break-in oil. I can say that oil consumption over the last 4000 miles has been very minimal so the engine seems to have sealed up nicely.

halfmonkey

I ended up getting an oil change I think a little over 5k miles because it was running low and figured instead of adding little by little until 10k, I would just go in and pay for it to change out the "break in" oil and so it could be topped off.

Just did my 2 year service and have about 13,600 miles.

SpeedySpidey

Does anyone know what the reason is for yearly? Not even 1500 miles since my last and the countdown is showing up already.

sanderabernathy

What should you do? Get it changed the earlier of every year or 10,000 miles. If you want to do more, that's up to you.

I got one at 1,000 miles and then the complementary service that includes an oil change at 1year/10,000 miles. I think the notion of an oil change after break in is as arcane as the "every 3 months or 3,000 miles" advice that was created concurrently with the creation of the quick oil change places. But it's a one time thing so I went ahead and did it. Not easy though since the dealers are now charging around $425 for an oil change.

colnagoG60

Google search came up with "degradation", even if car mostly sits. Shelf life in a bottle is 7-8 years.

Denny Swift

I hesitate posting here, because discussions of oil can be as volatile as politics or transmission preference! But…

I personally think that changing oil yearly regardless of mileage or use (street driving vs track) is based entirely on folklore. I also think that if manufacturers said you could go more than one year, they’d get accused of deliberately wanting their engines to fail so they can sell more cars. Those conspiracy theories still exist. 10 years ago it was a common argument that going 10-15k miles between changes was a marketing scheme to destroy engines and increase sales! Lots of people probably still do the 3k mile change. Going beyond 1 year is similar to wine prices. No one will buy a $2 bottle of wine. But if a $2 bottle is priced at $9-$12, it will sell great…

I don’t think you will find ANY actual data suggesting that oil reaches its expiration date just sitting in your sump.

However, frequent short trips is detrimental to an engine if you don’t reach full operating temperature. Water is a byproduct of combustion, and if you run an engine, but not long enough to reach full temperature, water can collect. But…theoretically any water formed, should never make it to your crankcase because it would have to get past your piston rings.

If your car is still under warranty, I’d certainly change it in accordance with Porsche’s recommendations, just to avoid any arguments if any problems occur. If you’re outside of the warranty period, it’s up to you. Lastly, if when you ever sell the car, the new buyer will probably want to see that you did all the suggested maintenance.


But is it really needed? I say no way….but that’s just me. I drive my cars often enough so I always change the oils yearly, but I change the oil on my 1966 Citroen 2CV and 2002 lawn mover about every 3 years, and I honestly think that’s still overkill…

In summary: the data doesn’t exist, so do what makes you feel good. :-)

GTSPYDER23

I did it at 1,500 miles literally just to make myself feel good about an expensive new car that I will keep forever. Beyond that point, at the least simply follow the owner's manual as stated above so you don't get into any arguments with Porsche on any warranty issues.....

For me personally, as many folks, I will change every 5k miles or 1 / year thereafter.

UncleDude

Hit the warranty services. No downside for the car and good for re-sale should you chose to sell it. I spoke to a dealer on the weekend and the guys who ignore the time and go by miles, make it harder on themselves when they go to trade. This dealer rejects (or diminishes) some trades without proper service history.

spdracerut

Personally, every new car I've gotten, I do the first oil change at 500miles. Another at 2k. Then at 5k. The reason being to purge out the metals and silicone (sealants, etc) from the engine breaking-in. Then 5k intervals after that unless I'm doing track days. I typically do a change for fresh oil before a track day.

slowdown

I changed mine after break in around 1500 miles when I got my OAP and VC installed. Will get the one year service in a few months - car only has 2200 miles on it now. Afterwards, I'll get the oil changed at 5000 miles or every 12 months, whichever is sooner. Oil changes are cheap... And I also add Chevron's Techron after every oil change or when it sits in the winter for storage... Might be overkill, but I might as well get the benefits of PEA in the Techron. It's also super cheap.

StormRune

For the first year oil change provided by Porsche, you have to use it within 60 days before or after the anniversary date for it to be covered by Porsche corporate. In other words, that offer expires 60 days after the one year anniversary. Might as well use it!

MrFunk

Any new car I change the oil after the first 500 miles. Then annual (which is about every 3.5 to 5k) before winter storage... I do my own... its inexpensive peace of mind.

Westcoast

I did mine early a 3000km, then again at the first service interval of 1 year which was around 8000km, no harm in a preemptive change after break-in.

Your indy may have access to the proper filter and o-ring, as for oil check with the auto parts stores in the area for C40 spec 0w-40 Mobil1