Stainless vs Titanium vs Inconel
#1
Stainless vs Titanium vs Inconel
For those who have A/B’d similar designs on this car or another do you notice any significant differences between the exhaust tone for different materials?
I hear often that Inconel has a higher pitch wail to it but I’ve not seen that captured super well in videos. Assuming similar x-Pipe designs is it really noticeable?
I hear often that Inconel has a higher pitch wail to it but I’ve not seen that captured super well in videos. Assuming similar x-Pipe designs is it really noticeable?
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#4
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I will put on my materials science engineering hat to shed some light. One has to look at the materials resonance frequency to draw some conclusion. Resonance frequency is a function of the material’s elasticity and density.
Stainless steel 303 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz
Ti has a resonance frequency of 256Hz &1,630Hz
Inconel 625 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz & 1,400Hz
With the geometry of the part being the same, one would infer that Ti and Inconel will sound the about the same, loud and long.
Stainless steel 303 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz
Ti has a resonance frequency of 256Hz &1,630Hz
Inconel 625 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz & 1,400Hz
With the geometry of the part being the same, one would infer that Ti and Inconel will sound the about the same, loud and long.
Last edited by jake18; 06-13-2021 at 05:52 AM.
#5
If you're wondering about Inconel go with Kline - I have a video on Youtube. The other brands feed you the BS saying inconel is expensive and are charging way more than they should. I don't blame them, they're trying to make money but it's whatever..
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I will put on my materials science engineering hat to shed some light. One has to look at the materials resonance frequency to draw some conclusion. Resonance frequency is a function of the material’s elasticity and density.
Stainless steel 303 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz
Ti has a resonance frequency of 256Hz &1,630Hz
Inconel 625 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz & 1,400Hz
With the geometry of the part being the same, one would infer that Ti and Inconel will sound the about the same, loud and long.
Stainless steel 303 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz
Ti has a resonance frequency of 256Hz &1,630Hz
Inconel 625 has a resonance frequency of 260Hz & 1,400Hz
With the geometry of the part being the same, one would infer that Ti and Inconel will sound the about the same, loud and long.
For anyone who is complaining about costs of these systems (I know not many are!), I think the best way to think about it is in comparison to a high end bike. As a cyclist, and comparing to a titanium or carbon frame, it is much easier to digest!
#7
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I have the Kline cat-back in Inconel and it is absolutely amazing - the perfect pitch/tone for the GT4/Spyder. Not too loud and Im considering down the road adding the 200 cell cat headers (with an ECU tune). I think anyway that you go (Just OAP, headers and stock rear or full system...) you cant help but improve the sound of the car as well as a bump in performance. It really changes the experience of driving the cars for the better. That said you can live happily with the stock system as it does get better the longer you drive it and its not a bad compromise.
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For those who have A/B’d similar designs on this car or another do you notice any significant differences between the exhaust tone for different materials?
I hear often that Inconel has a higher pitch wail to it but I’ve not seen that captured super well in videos. Assuming similar x-Pipe designs is it really noticeable?
I hear often that Inconel has a higher pitch wail to it but I’ve not seen that captured super well in videos. Assuming similar x-Pipe designs is it really noticeable?
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#10
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Reviving an old thread because it doesn't appear to have a full resolution. So the resonating frequencies are different... still doesn't justify the tremendous leap in price. I also get that it's used in F1 and aerospace... if I was competing in F1 or planning to fly in my car that would be significant. I'm clearly not doing either.
So please someone explain to me why I should consider buying the Kline inconel system aside from bragging rights? Because short of someone allowing me to drive both back to back, these two YouTube videos are all I have to go off of. They both sound eye-wateringly good. I can't tell the difference, let alone a 2x difference...
So please someone explain to me why I should consider buying the Kline inconel system aside from bragging rights? Because short of someone allowing me to drive both back to back, these two YouTube videos are all I have to go off of. They both sound eye-wateringly good. I can't tell the difference, let alone a 2x difference...
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So please someone explain to me why I should consider buying the Kline inconel system aside from bragging rights? Because short of someone allowing me to drive both back to back, these two YouTube videos are all I have to go off of. They both sound eye-wateringly good. I can't tell the difference, let alone a 2x difference...
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I am going to try really hard to listen to some of the different options before I do anything - the YouTube videos are helpful, but the mic can never replicate what it's like in person.
From everything that folks have said on here, it's my understanding that the inconel is just a bit more higher pitched, and a bit lighter as well. I am not sure whether that delta will be worth it for me, but I really hope I can hear one eventually.
From everything that folks have said on here, it's my understanding that the inconel is just a bit more higher pitched, and a bit lighter as well. I am not sure whether that delta will be worth it for me, but I really hope I can hear one eventually.
#13
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It’s fun to run across my crappy video embedded in another thread 😂. I absolutely love my SS Kline setup and highly recommend it. Especially when paired with the Cargraphic valve controller. I made that video before I had the controller so now I get an even better sound in sport below 5k. I need to make an updated video soon.
The Inconel is certainly lighter and may sound different/better, but the SS sounds incredible and is much less expensive. I couldn’t justify the price difference personally and I’m usually good at enabling my own bad financial decisions.
I had my car out for the first track day of the season with PCA and it sounded fantastic…lots of comments on the sound. Again, I’m 100% sure Inconel sounds as good or better, but I didn’t think the ROI was there for me.
Jeff
The Inconel is certainly lighter and may sound different/better, but the SS sounds incredible and is much less expensive. I couldn’t justify the price difference personally and I’m usually good at enabling my own bad financial decisions.
I had my car out for the first track day of the season with PCA and it sounded fantastic…lots of comments on the sound. Again, I’m 100% sure Inconel sounds as good or better, but I didn’t think the ROI was there for me.
Jeff
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#14
Kline Inconel with Cargraphic Controller. This was during breakin so RPMs where kept lower. 6k-8k is eargasmic
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Reviving an old thread because it doesn't appear to have a full resolution. So the resonating frequencies are different... still doesn't justify the tremendous leap in price. I also get that it's used in F1 and aerospace... if I was competing in F1 or planning to fly in my car that would be significant. I'm clearly not doing either.
So please someone explain to me why I should consider buying the Kline inconel system aside from bragging rights? Because short of someone allowing me to drive both back to back, these two YouTube videos are all I have to go off of. They both sound eye-wateringly good. I can't tell the difference, let alone a 2x difference...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a5kinPBhlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YKl6Ak2GOA
So please someone explain to me why I should consider buying the Kline inconel system aside from bragging rights? Because short of someone allowing me to drive both back to back, these two YouTube videos are all I have to go off of. They both sound eye-wateringly good. I can't tell the difference, let alone a 2x difference...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a5kinPBhlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YKl6Ak2GOA
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