From the factory, what tires came with your new Cayman? Michelin? Pirelli? Other?
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From the factory, what tires came with your new Cayman? Michelin? Pirelli? Other?
I heard there is no rhyme or reason if you get Michelin or Pirellis from the factory. Looking on the local dealers' floor at 911's and Caymans Pirelli was on about 80% of the cars with Michelins being 20%. Small sample size.
I have both brands on other cars and really like the Michelin PS4S the best.
Any other brands? If so, what kind? Continental?
I have both brands on other cars and really like the Michelin PS4S the best.
Any other brands? If so, what kind? Continental?
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Porsche equips cars exclusively with N-rated tires, which have passed whatever requirements Porsche hands the manufacturer. Generally there are only two or three available types for a given model and you don’t get a choice on a new car. As noted, they are currently equipping 718 Gt4, Spyder and GTS with either Michelin or Pirelli summer/performance tires. They also use Goodyears, Continentals, Dunlops and others on their cars. There are pdf’s available with all the various specs, but I don’t have a current copy.
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Porsche equips cars exclusively with N-rated tires, which have passed whatever requirements Porsche hands the manufacturer. Generally there are only two or three available types for a given model and you don’t get a choice on a new car. As noted, they are currently equipping 718 Gt4, Spyder and GTS with either Michelin or Pirelli summer/performance tires. They also use Goodyears, Continentals, Dunlops and others on their cars. There are pdf’s available with all the various specs, but I don’t have a current copy.
N rated seems a little low on the MPH scale (87). I have Michelin PSS Y rated (about to be changed to the new PS4S) which is 186 mph rated on one of my cars.
My winter Nokian Hakkas have a higher rating than N. They are rated at 106 which is an R rating.
I would expect the tires coming on these Caymans to be W or Y rated.
N rating is for boat trailers.
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N rated seems a little low on the MPH scale (87). I have Michelin PSS Y rated (about to be changed to the new PS4S) which is 186 mph rated on one of my cars.
My winter Nokian Hakkas have a higher rating than N. They are rated at 106 which is an R rating.
I would expect the tires coming on these Caymans to be W or Y rated.
N rating is for boat trailers.
My winter Nokian Hakkas have a higher rating than N. They are rated at 106 which is an R rating.
I would expect the tires coming on these Caymans to be W or Y rated.
N rating is for boat trailers.
If you compare two tires of the same model you will note that the Porsche version has the additional "N0" or "N1" designation imprinted on the tire wall...
This is also reflected in sites such as tire rack where they will list brand variants in addition to the "vanilla" version
Nothing to do with the speed or wear ratings...
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you are I am afraid mistaken/uninformed, many high performance/German car manufacturers, including Porsche (N), and Ferrari (K) work in concert with their tire providers in order to fine tune a particular tire model e.g: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, and 2R, for a particular model car, such as the 911, 718, and in the case of Porsche, these tuned tires are designated as N0 or N1 depending on the generation of
the model specific rubber available.
Nothing to do with the speed or wear ratings...
the model specific rubber available.
Nothing to do with the speed or wear ratings...
thanks for the info!!
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I forget what the letter designation is for MB and BMW but I think there are ones also!
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Here’s where some are getting confused. The “N” people are referring to here is not a rating, it’s a specification (spec) as in N-spec. GM uses a TPC spec, it defines the construction and compound approved for their application. There’s also additional confusion because the GT4 / Spyder are different sizes and specs and use tires not used on any other.
GT4 / Spyder are either Michelin Cup2’s or Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2’s, Spyders also have the option of specifying a HP tire vs, UHP and those have so far been PS4S.
All others are either Pirelli PZero or Michelin PS4S, I don’t think the 20/21 models years are doing Goodyear, Conti or Yokohama’s anymore but I could be wrong.
Also, the number after the N like N0, N1, N2, etc. represents a version number. When the manufacturer updates a tire model, like Pirelli did with the PZero back in 2016 they recertification the tire with Porsche and update the sequence number. This prevents someone from mixing construction and compound when the same size and model gets an update.
GT4 / Spyder are either Michelin Cup2’s or Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2’s, Spyders also have the option of specifying a HP tire vs, UHP and those have so far been PS4S.
All others are either Pirelli PZero or Michelin PS4S, I don’t think the 20/21 models years are doing Goodyear, Conti or Yokohama’s anymore but I could be wrong.
Also, the number after the N like N0, N1, N2, etc. represents a version number. When the manufacturer updates a tire model, like Pirelli did with the PZero back in 2016 they recertification the tire with Porsche and update the sequence number. This prevents someone from mixing construction and compound when the same size and model gets an update.
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Here’s where some are getting confused. The “N” people are referring to here is not a rating, it’s a specification (spec) as in N-spec. GM uses a TPC spec, it defines the construction and compound approved for their application. There’s also additional confusion because the GT4 / Spyder are different sizes and specs and use tires not used on any other.
GT4 / Spyder are either Michelin Cup2’s or Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2’s, Spyders also have the option of specifying a HP tire vs, UHP and those have so far been PS4S.
All others are either Pirelli PZero or Michelin PS4S, I don’t think the 20/21 models years are doing Goodyear, Conti or Yokohama’s anymore but I could be wrong.
Also, the number after the N like N0, N1, N2, etc. represents a version number. When the manufacturer updates a tire model, like Pirelli did with the PZero back in 2016 they recertification the tire with Porsche and update the sequence number. This prevents someone from mixing construction and compound when the same size and model gets an update.
GT4 / Spyder are either Michelin Cup2’s or Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2’s, Spyders also have the option of specifying a HP tire vs, UHP and those have so far been PS4S.
All others are either Pirelli PZero or Michelin PS4S, I don’t think the 20/21 models years are doing Goodyear, Conti or Yokohama’s anymore but I could be wrong.
Also, the number after the N like N0, N1, N2, etc. represents a version number. When the manufacturer updates a tire model, like Pirelli did with the PZero back in 2016 they recertification the tire with Porsche and update the sequence number. This prevents someone from mixing construction and compound when the same size and model gets an update.