2021 Cayman GTS Owner...with a story
#16
Racer
The descriptions we've seen thus far on the connecting rod/bolt issue are not terribly clear, so it's hard to know exactly what the issue is. However, inadequately tightened con-rod bolts (for whatever reason) can lead to fatigue fractures --- which are sudden and catostrophic. The problem with fatigue is that it is directly related to the number of cycles primarly, and the peak stresses during those cycles secondarily. It is very hard to predict with any degree of accuracy how many cycles it will take before failure. Fatigue failures quite often take many many years to manifest themselves. So -- easily outside of the normal warranty period. Hence, the obvious need for extended warranty on repaired engines.
Perhaps you meant that any problems caused by installation of a new engine will likely become obvious quickly.
#17
Drifting
I mean exactly what you said in your last sentence. I have faith Porsche will come up with a solution that fixes the problem but I have little faith in technicians being able to execute it properly for every car. It is guaranteed they will mess peoples cars up, not reinstall all the hardware, not torque things right, etc. They're human, it happens, and it's pretty much guaranteed. Porsche dealerships have good techs and bad techs and they don't put their best tech on every job.... so you could get anyone. I wouldn't worry in this case because there is so much warranty left and I think any technician error will show up well before the warranty expires, even if for some reason these cars do not get an extended warranty on the engine.
#18
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by Zhao;[url=tel:17330216
17330216[/url]]I mean exactly what you said in your last sentence. I have faith Porsche will come up with a solution that fixes the problem but I have little faith in technicians being able to execute it properly for every car. It is guaranteed they will mess peoples cars up, not reinstall all the hardware, not torque things right, etc. They're human, it happens, and it's pretty much guaranteed. Porsche dealerships have good techs and bad techs and they don't put their best tech on every job.... so you could get anyone. I wouldn't worry in this case because there is so much warranty left and I think any technician error will show up well before the warranty expires, even if for some reason these cars do not get an extended warranty on the engine.
#19
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Translation: I'm not an EE
In all seriousness, wow, what an incredibly frustrating account of what should have been a great experience for you. When they build a Porsche, they essentially start with the wiring harness and assemble everything else around it, so it is indeed a very invasive operation to replace one. I'll bet the issue simply amounts to a bad crimp in a connector at one end of the clock wiring or the other. Should be trivial to find it with an ohmmeter... but then I remember spending a half-hour trying to explain to a mechanic -- actually a better-than-decent mechanic -- how a relay works. (Edit: re-reading your post, I suspect Makers and Zhao are right, and it has nothing to do with the wiring.)
I'd say get them to lend you one of the 4-banger 718s, at least, so the whole driving season isn't lost. If they balk at that request, it would make the decision to initiate lemon-law proceedings an easy one.
In all seriousness, wow, what an incredibly frustrating account of what should have been a great experience for you. When they build a Porsche, they essentially start with the wiring harness and assemble everything else around it, so it is indeed a very invasive operation to replace one. I'll bet the issue simply amounts to a bad crimp in a connector at one end of the clock wiring or the other. Should be trivial to find it with an ohmmeter... but then I remember spending a half-hour trying to explain to a mechanic -- actually a better-than-decent mechanic -- how a relay works. (Edit: re-reading your post, I suspect Makers and Zhao are right, and it has nothing to do with the wiring.)
I'd say get them to lend you one of the 4-banger 718s, at least, so the whole driving season isn't lost. If they balk at that request, it would make the decision to initiate lemon-law proceedings an easy one.
Last edited by Noah Fect; 03-29-2021 at 10:57 PM.
#20
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by Noah Fect;[url=tel:17330399
17330399[/url]]Translation: I'm not an EE
In all seriousness, wow, what an incredibly frustrating account of what should have been a great experience for you. When they build a Porsche, they essentially start with the wiring harness and assemble everything else around it, so it is indeed a very invasive operation to replace one. I'll bet the issue simply amounts to a bad crimp in a connector at one end of the clock wiring or the other. Should be trivial to find it with an ohmmeter... but then I remember spending a half-hour trying to explain to a mechanic -- actually a better-than-decent mechanic -- how a relay works. (Edit: re-reading your post, I suspect Makers and Zhao are right, and it has nothing to do with the wiring.)
I'd say get them to lend you one of the 4-banger 718s, at least, so the whole driving season isn't lost. If they balk at that request, it would make the decision to initiate lemon-law proceedings an easy one.
In all seriousness, wow, what an incredibly frustrating account of what should have been a great experience for you. When they build a Porsche, they essentially start with the wiring harness and assemble everything else around it, so it is indeed a very invasive operation to replace one. I'll bet the issue simply amounts to a bad crimp in a connector at one end of the clock wiring or the other. Should be trivial to find it with an ohmmeter... but then I remember spending a half-hour trying to explain to a mechanic -- actually a better-than-decent mechanic -- how a relay works. (Edit: re-reading your post, I suspect Makers and Zhao are right, and it has nothing to do with the wiring.)
I'd say get them to lend you one of the 4-banger 718s, at least, so the whole driving season isn't lost. If they balk at that request, it would make the decision to initiate lemon-law proceedings an easy one.
#21
Replace the wiring harness? That’d be a big nope. I’d sooner tape a Casio to the dash.
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