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Old 11-11-2020, 10:47 AM
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Default PDKS GT4 VS GTS what’s really different?

Cost about the same but more choices on the GTS.
What’s really the difference if you spec a GTS for the track?

Sorry if it’s been posted before, just starting to look at Caymans..
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Suspension. Brakes. Aero bits. Just for starters.

I think there was a detailed thread somewhere.
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Wider tires, higher lateral G's
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TXShaggy wrote this, I just tweaked it for the Cayman/GT4.
A more accurate statement is the GTS is a regular Cayman with a detuned 4.0.

The entire front clip, chassis, sub frame, axle, and steering are unique from the GT3, rear suspension is GT bespoke.

Bigger tires, brakes, and then there's the aero.

PDK is mated to a more aggressive limited slip diff.

PSM and PASM significantly different.

Oh and the styling...there’s that also.
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Cost about the same? Really? $94,500 vs $114,900 base in Canada. The delta is similar in the US percentage wise. 18% delta. Are you trolling for fun? Based on your profile pic you should know better.

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Originally Posted by Puggz
Cost about the same? Really? $94,500 vs $114,900 base in Canada. The delta is similar in the US percentage wise. 18% delta. Are you trolling for fun? Based on your profile pic you should know better.

Cheers!

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Exactly why I got the GTS here in BC, or I’d end up paying a 25% tax. Ouuuuch.
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Assuming you will track it, get the GT4
Suspension and brakes are not the same and worth the pricing delta, for the track.
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But what about a GTS with Ohlins or KW suspension?

Does the GTS have limited camber adjustment compared to the GT4?
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Cost about the same but more choices on the GTS.
What’s really the difference if you spec a GTS for the track?

Sorry if it’s been posted before, just starting to look at Caymans..
better LSD Peter
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Originally Posted by Loess
But what about a GTS with Ohlins or KW suspension?

Does the GTS have limited camber adjustment compared to the GT4?

There are still a lot that you would miss out on, some (but maybe not all) are...

GT4 specific calibrated PSM
GT4 specific bushing set and more hard mounted (ball joint) attach points
GT4 specific LSD calibrations
Wider wheels/tires (which equal higher lateral G limits)


You could probably look at the GT4 Sales Brochure and find more GT4 specific items that you can't get on the GTS (nor could you retro-fit)
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Originally Posted by Haros
Exactly why I got the GTS here in BC, or I’d end up paying a 25% tax. Ouuuuch.
Price you pay for living in beautiful BC.

Then again, murder hornets are coming...
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Originally Posted by Puggz
Cost about the same? Really? $94,500 vs $114,900 base in Canada. The delta is similar in the US percentage wise. 18% delta. Are you trolling for fun? Based on your profile pic you should know better.

Cheers!

P.
For Trakcar, the 18% price difference is probably relative to a couple k to me. I mean he had two RSs he spent time tracking in Europe at some of the best tracks.

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Originally Posted by Loess
But what about a GTS with Ohlins or KW suspension?

Does the GTS have limited camber adjustment compared to the GT4?

You could do that and you are still far away from a GT4...it has been documented since the 981 GT4 that they changed a lot of suspension parts including geometry.
Changing just the shocks will not do the trick.
Then you have the brakes, the LSD, the aero.......
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Hi Peter, if track GT4 all the way.
But neither will beat your 991RS
why a cayman?
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Originally Posted by Dr.Bill
Suspension. Brakes. Aero bits. Just for starters.

I think there was a detailed thread somewhere.
Thanks


Originally Posted by DFW01TT
TXShaggy wrote this, I just tweaked it for the Cayman/GT4.
A more accurate statement is the GTS is a regular Cayman with a detuned 4.0.

The entire front clip, chassis, sub frame, axle, and steering are unique from the GT3, rear suspension is GT bespoke.

Bigger tires, brakes, and then there's the aero.

PDK is mated to a more aggressive limited slip diff.

PSM and PASM significantly different.

Oh and the styling...there’s that also.
Seems like the aero could be fixed, both could have PCCB.
PSM ediff would be the biggest change, tire fir tire.



Originally Posted by Puggz
Cost about the same? Really? $94,500 vs $114,900 base in Canada. The delta is similar in the US percentage wise. 18% delta. Are you trolling for fun? Based on your profile pic you should know better.

Cheers!

P.
We’re paying in fugazi’s down here.

Originally Posted by PierreTT
Assuming you will track it, get the GT4
Suspension and brakes are not the same and worth the pricing delta, for the track.
Understood.

Originally Posted by mr965
better LSD Peter
Short and sweet

Originally Posted by Five12Free
For Trakcar, the 18% price difference is probably relative to a couple k to me. I mean he had two RSs he spent time tracking in Europe at some of the best tracks.
What I do with the cars costs enough to make the car costprice pale, but I was more looking at a more luxurious GTS that can still take the track.
In that train of thought they could cost about the same.

Originally Posted by DK7
Hi Peter, if track GT4 all the way.
But neither will beat your 991RS
why a cayman?
RS all sold, preparing for the scamdemic fallout. Both were getting up there with miles..
There is no European Delivery for the moment, ED may be cancelled as part of the great reset?
In that case I could buy a car in Europe and sell when I’m done with it.

A GTS might be easier to find come springtime and a bit more comfy to transport wifey around in, when she joins me.
Cayman cheaper lighter smaller and different to learn, anyone know if they both have PDK-S like a GT3? No creep, forward down, lever back is up when not using paddles?







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