718 Spyder tire choice between UHP and HP summer tires
09-28-2020 | 05:26 PM
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Any updates on what the option tire might be? I'm about to put in my order and if they aren't PS4S then it's a hard pass for me too. Based on what I see from Michelin they don't have an N-Spec for the Spyder sizes other than the Cup2
09-29-2020 | 02:13 AM
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I live in Mumbai and drive around here. We just finished with the rainy season (125 inches of rain in 3 months). The Dunlop Maxx Sports 2 that came with the GT4 were great when roads were dry. extremely high cornering speeds and grips like a leech. in moderately wet roads, the grip is severely compromised. Aquaplanes at the slightest provocation in standing water. I then changed to Michelin PS4S. wet roads drivability is greatly improved. Cornering speeds (IMHO) are around 85% of the Dunlop's. Comfort levels in the city and very high speed driving is improved dramatically. All in all PS4S is great for regular city roads, high speed drives, moderate speed (< 100 mph) corner carving. Only if you track the car, then I feel would you need the DUNLOP's or the CUP 2's. Else PS4S will do fine.
03-10-2021 | 05:11 PM
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I bought a 2021 Spyder and the dealer convinced me to replace the UHP with HP tires. I am a bit disappointed, in that the car oversteers some. i think i will replace then with UHP and see how it goes. I never have the car in the rain anyway.
03-10-2021 | 05:17 PM
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03-11-2021 | 07:56 AM
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07-05-2021 | 09:54 PM
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Can any more folks confirm whether the selecting the summer tires for the Spyder come with the PS4S? I have an order coming in later this year and don't want to see Pirellis on them..in that case I would just roll with the Cup 2s. thanks
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07-06-2021 | 12:37 AM
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07-06-2021 | 12:09 PM
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New generation UHP tires seem better in cool and wet weather than they were 10 or even 5 years ago. Andreas Preuninger said in an interview regarding the 718 GT4/Spyder that the new generation of UHP tires for this car have better wet weather performance than the tires that shipped with the 981 GT4.
My Spyder has the Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2 N1 (Porsche spec) tires, and at least in 15 degree Celsius weather with moderate rain, the tires did great. No hydroplaning at highway speeds, and great grip when I did some test braking. I’ve yet to try them in cooler temperatures (below 10 degrees Celsius). Michelin PS4S will undoubtedly be better in cooler/wetter conditions, but at least in the moderate conditions I tried the Dunlops were fine.
The Dunlop tires on my Spyder feel notably grippier on dry pavement than the PS4S on my old Boxster. They grip a little harder in braking, and they grip tenaciously in intense cornering that would have made the PS4S on my old Boxster break loose.
At least with my experience so far, the UHP Dunlop’s have been a significant performance upgrade over Michelin PS4S, and they’re fine at least in moderate rain and 15 degree Celsius weather.
I expect them to be awful at 5 degrees Celsius, but I haven’t tried as it hasn’t yet gotten that cold in Southern Ontario.
My Spyder has the Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2 N1 (Porsche spec) tires, and at least in 15 degree Celsius weather with moderate rain, the tires did great. No hydroplaning at highway speeds, and great grip when I did some test braking. I’ve yet to try them in cooler temperatures (below 10 degrees Celsius). Michelin PS4S will undoubtedly be better in cooler/wetter conditions, but at least in the moderate conditions I tried the Dunlops were fine.
The Dunlop tires on my Spyder feel notably grippier on dry pavement than the PS4S on my old Boxster. They grip a little harder in braking, and they grip tenaciously in intense cornering that would have made the PS4S on my old Boxster break loose.
At least with my experience so far, the UHP Dunlop’s have been a significant performance upgrade over Michelin PS4S, and they’re fine at least in moderate rain and 15 degree Celsius weather.
I expect them to be awful at 5 degrees Celsius, but I haven’t tried as it hasn’t yet gotten that cold in Southern Ontario.
I was concerned about this, but at least for the Dunlops it’s not the case. I pulled 1.06 G cornering on dry pavement at 20 degrees Celsius ambient without any attempt to warm up the tires, and the Dunlops didn’t even squeal let alone break loose. The Michelin Pilot Super Sports and Michelin Pilot Sport 4S I’ve had on previous cars would both have lost grip in that situation.
The Dunlops would probably grip better when warmed up, but at least in cornering they seem to do better than PS4S at moderate ambient temperatures.
With that said, if you intend to drive it with the same tires below 10 degrees Celsius, you’re probably better off with PS4S. They will not last 15K miles either. Maybe half that.
The Dunlops would probably grip better when warmed up, but at least in cornering they seem to do better than PS4S at moderate ambient temperatures.
With that said, if you intend to drive it with the same tires below 10 degrees Celsius, you’re probably better off with PS4S. They will not last 15K miles either. Maybe half that.
07-06-2021 | 03:53 PM
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07-06-2021 | 04:07 PM
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07-06-2021 | 06:35 PM
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I picked up my car from PECLA on 5/28 and it did come with PS4 in N0 spec. The delivery specialist said I lucked out on the tires because I got the Michelin tires. He alluded to the tire being a totally random process because in saying that I lucked out, he mentioned that he's seen other options show up in when selecting the HP tire choice. I can't recall which brand he said he's seen but I recall us making quick comments about being glad I got the PS4 tires.
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07-07-2021 | 12:36 PM
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I'm new to NW SC, located at the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and my Spyder isn't due in until late October. I'm leaning towards "rolling the dice" for HP summer tires rather than the standard SC2 UHP summer tires, due to the colder temps and increased chances of rain in this area. I too am worried that I'll end up with PZeros, but I think it's a chance I'll have to take. Although I really like the idea of the SC2s, I'm reassessing the downsides of trying to live with that tire in this climate. My SA told me exactly the same thing as halfmonkey has already noted above - it's a bit of a crapshoot - whatever Porsche has available when the car is rolling down the line is what will get installed. We have no choice or say in the matter....
07-07-2021 | 01:03 PM
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I'm new to NW SC, located at the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and my Spyder isn't due in until late October. I'm leaning towards "rolling the dice" for HP summer tires rather than the standard SC2 UHP summer tires, due to the colder temps and increased chances of rain in this area. I too am worried that I'll end up with PZeros, but I think it's a chance I'll have to take. Although I really like the idea of the SC2s, I'm reassessing the downsides of trying to live with that tire in this climate. My SA told me exactly the same thing as halfmonkey has already noted above - it's a bit of a crapshoot - whatever Porsche has available when the car is rolling down the line is what will get installed. We have no choice or say in the matter....
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