View Poll Results: Initial oil change / service.
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Initial oil change, 1.000, 2,000, 10,000?
08-04-2020, 07:32 PM
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I think that it is as simple as this, the odometer is the easiest measure to quote in the manual, to the average user there is no way to calculate or determine the number of engine revolutions accumulated in any vehicle (if there is I am listening).
So as for the math, I am pretty good at it, if you have a formula to share, one that isn't just a bunch of WAG's please feel free to post it up now along with the recommended number of engine revolutions required... but please lets not pull out the thumb and hold it up and say " yep, I figure xxxxx revolutions' is about right!"
Do you have a reputable study from a trusted verifiable source that has published such a figure for a modern Porsche engine like that in the 718 GT4/Spyder?
So as for the math, I am pretty good at it, if you have a formula to share, one that isn't just a bunch of WAG's please feel free to post it up now along with the recommended number of engine revolutions required... but please lets not pull out the thumb and hold it up and say " yep, I figure xxxxx revolutions' is about right!"
Do you have a reputable study from a trusted verifiable source that has published such a figure for a modern Porsche engine like that in the 718 GT4/Spyder?Last edited by VVG; 08-04-2020 at 07:44 PM.
08-04-2020, 07:43 PM
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I do not. Finding this info online would be no easier for me than for you. I agree that the odometer is the easiest measure to quote in the manual. And while Porsche's are highly engineered, they do not follow a completely different set of laws of physics. There is another thread going on break in. There is a quote there from the great AP himself on how he recommends a break in. And is not 2000 miles/4000rpm. I do however know an engineer for SRT, and 2 Audi master techs, one of whom was an Audi race mechanic. They actually educated me a lot on modern engines.
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08-04-2020, 07:56 PM
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Honestly, my goal with the poll was to hear when others changed their oil. As has been covered multiple times, each person has a different opinion on breakin. I think one thing most of us agree on is waiting for 10,000 or 20,000 miles after the initial service is too long. I plan to stick with my initial change at 1,000 and each year afterwards. Sorry if we got off topic with breakin debate again.....
08-04-2020, 08:00 PM
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Honestly, my goal with the poll was to hear when others changed their oil. As has been covered multiple times, each person has a different opinion on breakin. I think one thing most of us agree on is waiting for 10,000 or 20,000 miles after the initial service is too long. I plan to stick with my initial change at 1,000 and each year afterwards. Sorry if we got off topic with breakin debate again.....
Yes change the oil early 1-2000 miles and then every year or at the prescribed mileage, whichever comes first!
08-04-2020, 11:49 PM
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It's my first Porsche so I specifically asked the guy in charge of the service department at my dealership when I took delivery. FWIW he told me there is no need to change it after break in. I'm currently a little over 2500kms. Hopefully I'll get to 5000kms before winter and will probably do the first oil change then.
08-05-2020, 02:43 AM
#21
You're clearly not worried about "familiarity breeding contempt"?
Good self control though!
08-05-2020, 03:48 AM
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01-31-2021, 05:50 PM
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Necessary to change 718 oil annually?
Hello all -
I've only driven my 718 boxer about 4000 miles over the past 15 months. I know that the oil change is recommended every 10k miles or 12 months, whichever comes first. I'm at 15 months, but haven't driven the car very much or very hard. it's a 2017 with 16500 miles total. I appreciate the feedback. thank you!
I've only driven my 718 boxer about 4000 miles over the past 15 months. I know that the oil change is recommended every 10k miles or 12 months, whichever comes first. I'm at 15 months, but haven't driven the car very much or very hard. it's a 2017 with 16500 miles total. I appreciate the feedback. thank you!
01-31-2021, 06:20 PM
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The factory spec is mileage or time, completely black and white so what are you questioning? You are 3 months overdue for an oil change, simple as that. I guess the better question is do you value your warranty?
It really has nothing to do with “will it be a problem”. Once it’s out of warranty then of course you can do whatever you want. Personally, every motor I’ve ever owned rarely went more than 12 months without an oil change, many used in severe service got multiple changes over 12 months. Really cheap insurance IMHO.
It really has nothing to do with “will it be a problem”. Once it’s out of warranty then of course you can do whatever you want. Personally, every motor I’ve ever owned rarely went more than 12 months without an oil change, many used in severe service got multiple changes over 12 months. Really cheap insurance IMHO.
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01-31-2021, 06:36 PM
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The factory spec is mileage or time, completely black and white so what are you questioning? You are 3 months overdue for an oil change, simple as that. I guess the better question is do you value your warranty?
It really has nothing to do with “will it be a problem”. Once it’s out of warranty then of course you can do whatever you want. Personally, every motor I’ve ever owned rarely went more than 12 months without an oil change, many used in severe service got multiple changes over 12 months. Really cheap insurance IMHO.
It really has nothing to do with “will it be a problem”. Once it’s out of warranty then of course you can do whatever you want. Personally, every motor I’ve ever owned rarely went more than 12 months without an oil change, many used in severe service got multiple changes over 12 months. Really cheap insurance IMHO.
Hello all -
I've only driven my 718 boxer about 4000 miles over the past 15 months. I know that the oil change is recommended every 10k miles or 12 months, whichever comes first. I'm at 15 months, but haven't driven the car very much or very hard. it's a 2017 with 16500 miles total. I appreciate the feedback. thank you!
I've only driven my 718 boxer about 4000 miles over the past 15 months. I know that the oil change is recommended every 10k miles or 12 months, whichever comes first. I'm at 15 months, but haven't driven the car very much or very hard. it's a 2017 with 16500 miles total. I appreciate the feedback. thank you!
If you think that you haven't driven enough miles to warrant an oil change then you need to drive more!
02-02-2021, 06:56 PM
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Honestly, my goal with the poll was to hear when others changed their oil. As has been covered multiple times, each person has a different opinion on breakin. I think one thing most of us agree on is waiting for 10,000 or 20,000 miles after the initial service is too long. I plan to stick with my initial change at 1,000 and each year afterwards. Sorry if we got off topic with breakin debate again.....
02-02-2021, 06:59 PM
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Honestly, my goal with the poll was to hear when others changed their oil. As has been covered multiple times, each person has a different opinion on breakin. I think one thing most of us agree on is waiting for 10,000 or 20,000 miles after the initial service is too long. I plan to stick with my initial change at 1,000 and each year afterwards. Sorry if we got off topic with breakin debate again.....
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12-04-2023, 03:36 AM
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I still do not understand why anyone thinks break-in has to do with how many miles one has driven. If you drive at 2000 rpm for 2000 miles and 4000 rpm for 1000 miles, your engine will have made the same number or revolutions. FWIW, every Porsche model with every engine has the same break-in recommendation in the manual. It has to be that way (for legal reasons) for people who can't do the math, or who just have no clue about cars (think about your average base Macan suburbanite), etc.
I would like to think that people who have both the interest and the means to buy these car have the intelligence to see beyond the legal and corporate "party line" on break-in. In fact, the majority of break -n is done within the first few hours of driving. I really am just trying to understand...nothing more. But I am also committed to providing proper information to our enthusiast community.
As far as oil goes, this is my 5th Porsche. I change every year or every 10,00 miles. Never had a problem so I see no reason to do differently.
I would like to think that people who have both the interest and the means to buy these car have the intelligence to see beyond the legal and corporate "party line" on break-in. In fact, the majority of break -n is done within the first few hours of driving. I really am just trying to understand...nothing more. But I am also committed to providing proper information to our enthusiast community.
As far as oil goes, this is my 5th Porsche. I change every year or every 10,00 miles. Never had a problem so I see no reason to do differently.