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Do you want a good replacement option? Or low dust pads and/or cheaper-than-Porsche carbon ceramic rotors? Those are two different, mutually-exclusive questions, with two different answers....
Do you want a good replacement option? Or low dust pads and/or cheaper-than-Porsche carbon ceramic rotors? Those are two different, mutually-exclusive questions, with two different answers....
TBH I think i'm moving more along the lines of PCCB. the dust and noise I don't think I can handle for much longer lol
TBH I think i'm moving more along the lines of PCCB. the dust and noise I don't think I can handle for much longer lol
Not much you can do about dust, but the noise...I have no idea how many miles are on your car, so bear with me. Have you actually bedded the brakes? Or have you just been toodling around town?
TBH I think i'm moving more along the lines of PCCB. the dust and noise I don't think I can handle for much longer lol
A few track days will normally quiet things up a bit lol. But I agree that going with an aftermarket surface transform type carbon option probably gets you where you want to be without TOO much investment if you're mainly after the "quality of life" benefits of PCCBs.
From a pure performance perspective the AP Racing J-hook rotors + Ferodo DS 3.12 is a great combination (and is likely what I'll be going to straight away myself). From recollection, that combo squeals a lot less than the stock brakes, but I'm also basing that on a car that spent almost all its time at the track (which tends to reduce the squealing due all the heavy braking). This combo definitely doesn't help the brake dust though.
Another question for you to ponder (that I do not know the answer to necessarily), assuming you're largely just annoyed with the brake dust (since performance brake squeak = "because race car"), what would be the cost of getting a wheel coating (that you have to get redone every year or two) versus buying aftermarket rotors and pads? My guesstimate is that you're talking $250-$350? a pop for wheel coating each year (or two, depending on your use), versus new rotors and pads that will be a $3k-$5k investment? That puts you at 10+ years of annual wheel coatings before you break even on the pad/rotor investment.
From a pure performance perspective the AP Racing J-hook rotors + Ferodo DS 3.12 is a great combination (and is likely what I'll be going to straight away myself). From recollection, that combo squeals a lot less than the stock brakes, but I'm also basing that on a car that spent almost all its time at the track (which tends to reduce the squealing due all the heavy braking). This combo definitely doesn't help the brake dust though.
I started out with OEM rotor replacements on my GT3, and graduated to the BBK kit. I am surprised at how little the 3.12s squeal on the street. The GT4 pads are noisier.
I have the steel brakes on my Spyder and I am not planning to track it.
I am looking for high performance street break pads that are low dust and silent.
I was recommend a Japanese brand called Dixcel.
have you heard of them?
any other recommendations? (I am based in Europe)
thanks all!
OEM steel rotors are a single piece. PFC 2 piece rotor which should be lighter. They make an amazing product. The PFC 11 pads are excellent and I think the race car uses PFC setup too.
Hi...just saw your post while researching a bit. Have a 718 spyder with brakes that are making a good bit of noise. Did you find a way to resolve the issue on your end? Did these pads work?
Hi...just saw your post while researching a bit. Have a 718 spyder with brakes that are making a good bit of noise. Did you find a way to resolve the issue on your end? Did these pads work?
Thanks,
Dave
I ended up with Dixcel M performance street. These are not for track only street.
I can say that both squealing and dust decreased significantly while giving me enough performance for spirited street / mountain driving (stock Pagid pads have more bite). The pads still squeal when I leave my garage in the morning and that’s it! Dust is way less. They require to be bedded like all performance and track pads.
08-03-2020, 07:49 PM
Brake Pad/Rotor Alternatives
