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Old 07-20-2020 | 06:30 PM
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Default PCCB - anything different other than calipers/rotors/pads

Searched and came up empty - besides the obvious, is there anything different about the PCCB system when it comes to the master cylinder or anything else?
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I suspect steering knuckles & hub carriers are different. Sway bar links maybe. In general.

Might not be the case for the 4.0s since the stock brakes are gi-monstrous out of the box.

Note I wrote “suspect.” Anyone that is really interested can check online parts diagrams if they’re out yet.
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When I briefly considered the conversion for my 981 Spyder, I recall it was calipers, rotors, pads, master cylinder and, possibly, a software re-flash related to the coding of the ABS function. I never got far enough to confirm whether that last part was required or not.
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I think it depends on which car you have??? I did the retrofit for my 2011 987.2 Spyder and it required the Master Cylinder, Booster, Lines, front wheel carriers, sensors, Calipers and Pads. For that I used the parts catalog to determine what was different from the standard steels. Little difficult for the GTS 4.0, GT4 and Spyder as PNCA hasn't posted the parts catalog online yet. It was a fun winter project... took my time and did it right!
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Thanks all. Was debating going PCCB for a GTS 4.0, but think I’ll pass and spend that money on GiroDisc rotors instead and learn to live with Brembos becoming Brownbos... :/
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Different Part # and Less boost on Power Booster.....

so POWER BOOSTER!
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Originally Posted by EZ99B5
Thanks all. Was debating going PCCB for a GTS 4.0, but think I’ll pass and spend that money on GiroDisc rotors instead and learn to live with Brembos becoming Brownbos... :/

Just be sure to wax, or ceramic coat the wheels as soon as you get the car, for easier cleanup.
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
Just be sure to wax, or ceramic coat the wheels as soon as you get the car, for easier cleanup.
I think he’s writing about the Red Calipers fading to brown when used on the track. The ‘black caliper’ option available for the 4-liter 718s would be a good choice for those those intend to track.
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I think the Master Cylinder and associated parts are same between Iron and PCCB's on cars that otherwise use the standard GT 380mm rotors (like GT3, GT4, 718 Spyder, etc). On cars that use smaller than GT 380mm brakes (like 981 Spyder), then there is a difference in MC and associated hardware. PCCB may have longer brake lines too...
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Originally Posted by worf928
I think he’s writing about the Red Calipers fading to brown when used on the track. The ‘black caliper’ option available for the 4-liter 718s would be a good choice for those those intend to track.
Yes - this...
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Originally Posted by EZ99B5
Yes - this...
Since everyone now has red calipers black is the new red. Option code XBS FTW.
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Originally Posted by worf928
Since everyone now has red calipers black is the new red. Option code XBS FTW.
I’m sure I’ve spent $900 on less meaningful things at some point in my life...
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Originally Posted by EZ99B5
I’m sure I’ve spent $900 on less meaningful things at some point in my life...
Yeah. But, 5 years from now when Black calipers are still mostly black will it have been $900 well-spent in comparison to Brown calipers? And what's the over-under on making Brown calipers Red again if you don't DIY as compared to the time-value of money if you do DIY?

All this, of course, assumes that the Black calipers will stay black. On the other hand, if they fade to gray you can claim that they started out as PSCB calipers where white faded to gray... and still be ahead. LoL.

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Update as I heard back from my service advisor. He said it’s just the calipers, rotors and pads...


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