718 GT4 on Bring a Trailer
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#18
I was actually getting on it. With very few deliveries so far, I would think as more US customers receive their cars you will be hearing much more of the same. Keep in mind, these videos were made with the vacuum lines disconnected, so actually much more quiet before this mod.
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GT3NY (05-22-2020)
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I have uploaded 2 videos that I will post here also, cold start and driving video with windows down. This is with the exhaust flap mod (vacuum lines disconnected)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13C...IefE4a6VDTxQ8K
https://drive.google.com/open?id=137...E7LOjybYqYlu9q
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13C...IefE4a6VDTxQ8K
https://drive.google.com/open?id=137...E7LOjybYqYlu9q
I don't think you have a sound problem...but you do have "a RATT problem":
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rsierra (05-25-2020)
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That's a great video, Jim. Very informative and sobering. Also agree (but, differ slightly) that Porsche took the by-the-book and draconian approach in implementing the regs, post-diesel gate. They just didn't want to risk any perception of circumventing the regs. Still, they didn't need to screw the RoW enthusiasts!! But, they did!!
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Poesche doesn’t make these types of decisions. That comes from the mothership. Most likely they would have had to further increase cost which may have been harder to swallow. They may loosen up for Euro7 and do just that but it is truly too close to dieselgate and too risky given the advanced scrutiny.
Just talking about markets that don't require the active OPF... I am not buying that it's cheaper to put the inactive OPFs on versus a simple bypass pipe for whatever reasons they may happen to cite. They most certainly did this as it was the best way to keep the sound uniform globally. If Euros hear these screaming ROW cars with bypass pipes they will be more reluctant to purchase in their own market, even if that is their new normal and something they have to get used to. As time passes and Euros come to terms with this reality they may relax their stance on this, but early stages into the era of neutered sounding high performance cars, they are probably playing it safe.
Even if it costs a few bucks more for them in ROW to put a bypass pipe in instead of the inactive OPF I'm sure they would take that on as the sound will help sell more cars and easily offset the part cost. I'm sure it was a calculated decision but the end result is they purposely stifled the sound as part of a strategy.
Last edited by Jim Rockford; 05-22-2020 at 07:14 PM.
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Porsche is a pretty profitable arm of VAG so I am thinking they'd get the leash they wanted to do as they please for most things.
Just talking about markets that don't require the active OPF... I am not buying that it's cheaper to put the inactive OPFs on versus a simple bypass pipe for whatever reasons they may happen to cite. They most certainly did this as it was the best way to keep the sound uniform globally. If Euros hear these screaming ROW cars with bypass pipes they will be more reluctant to purchase in their own market, even if that is their new normal and something they have to get used to. As time passes and Euros come to terms with this reality they may relax their stance on this, but early stages into the era of neutered sounding high performance cars, they are probably playing it safe.
Even if it cost a few bucks more for them in ROW to put a bypass pipe in instead of the inactive OPF I'm sure they would take that on as the sound will help sell more cars and easily offset the part cost. I'm sure it was a calculated decision but the end result is they purposely stifled the sound as part of a strategy.
Just talking about markets that don't require the active OPF... I am not buying that it's cheaper to put the inactive OPFs on versus a simple bypass pipe for whatever reasons they may happen to cite. They most certainly did this as it was the best way to keep the sound uniform globally. If Euros hear these screaming ROW cars with bypass pipes they will be more reluctant to purchase in their own market, even if that is their new normal and something they have to get used to. As time passes and Euros come to terms with this reality they may relax their stance on this, but early stages into the era of neutered sounding high performance cars, they are probably playing it safe.
Even if it cost a few bucks more for them in ROW to put a bypass pipe in instead of the inactive OPF I'm sure they would take that on as the sound will help sell more cars and easily offset the part cost. I'm sure it was a calculated decision but the end result is they purposely stifled the sound as part of a strategy.
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phefner (05-22-2020)
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not sure about that... I think we will have ICE cars for a while... Porsche recently stated that the Euro 7 guidelines allow for greater displacement ICE... so the 983/993 (or whatever they call it) will be electric, but the 982/992 will carry on in tandem with ICE... more than likely for the GT/Spyder Specialty cars.
#28
OP's BaT history is full of low-mile cars being sold by him; SLS AMG sold after just 130 miles, 100 miles on a 997 GTS, 2k mls on a Z8 in 6 years, etc. This GT4 is no different, then. You ain't fooling nobody here, OP.
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rsierra (05-25-2020)
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2011 sls, 2012 911 gts, 2001 bmw z8 these were all older low mileage collectible cars where the value was in their low mileage.