Finally my new black GT4
04-19-2020, 10:33 AM
#61
Burning Brakes
04-19-2020, 12:36 PM
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Yellow Submarine (04-20-2020)
04-20-2020, 01:11 AM
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Hmm. Its ticking almost all the boxes, but I've resigned myself to the fact it will never be the perfect car I want. 550HP, multilink suspension, crazy aero etc. But one thing the GT4 excels in, is as a daily driver, and the fact that it is also a great track car when needed is awesome. I so much pefer driving this as a daily and going to the local hardware store to pick up plants or pool chemicals etc than say if it was in a Ferrari or Lambo or whatever.
I hope Porsche pull out all the stops on the GT4 RS - I suspect I'm going to be disappointed.
04-20-2020, 01:36 AM
#64
Burning Brakes
How many times has Porsche not followed their formula of iterative improvement? Logic says it'll be PDK, more aero, a bit more HP from same 4.0, a bit less weight (more carbon fiber), but unlikely any substantial changes like a new rear multi-link suspension.
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DFW01TT (04-20-2020)
04-20-2020, 02:41 AM
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I'd jump to the GT4RS if it was manual.
The crazy thing is my modified (just bolt-ons) 987.2S with A050s on is slightly faster than the GT4 (neg 2 camber setup, Trofeo R) around the track. 987.2 pulls 2.1Gs in the corner, such fun. So for me I would need more mods on the 981GT4 to get to the next level on a car that is now 5 years old. Thus one reason to start with a 718GT4.
The 987.2 won club outright comp 3 times. Cant now due to too many much newer and faster 911s'.
The crazy thing is my modified (just bolt-ons) 987.2S with A050s on is slightly faster than the GT4 (neg 2 camber setup, Trofeo R) around the track. 987.2 pulls 2.1Gs in the corner, such fun. So for me I would need more mods on the 981GT4 to get to the next level on a car that is now 5 years old. Thus one reason to start with a 718GT4.
The 987.2 won club outright comp 3 times. Cant now due to too many much newer and faster 911s'.
04-20-2020, 05:36 AM
#66
I'd jump to the GT4RS if it was manual.
The crazy thing is my modified (just bolt-ons) 987.2S with A050s on is slightly faster than the GT4 (neg 2 camber setup, Trofeo R) around the track. 987.2 pulls 2.1Gs in the corner, such fun. So for me I would need more mods on the 981GT4 to get to the next level on a car that is now 5 years old. Thus one reason to start with a 718GT4.
The 987.2 won club outright comp 3 times. Cant now due to too many much newer and faster 911s'.
The crazy thing is my modified (just bolt-ons) 987.2S with A050s on is slightly faster than the GT4 (neg 2 camber setup, Trofeo R) around the track. 987.2 pulls 2.1Gs in the corner, such fun. So for me I would need more mods on the 981GT4 to get to the next level on a car that is now 5 years old. Thus one reason to start with a 718GT4.
The 987.2 won club outright comp 3 times. Cant now due to too many much newer and faster 911s'.
Last edited by groundhog; 04-20-2020 at 06:35 AM.
04-20-2020, 05:39 AM
#67
The RS moniker is the top of the line, the best the GT division can deliver for a particular generation................The GT3 RS is a very special car, there is no reason why the GT4 RS can't be as special as the GT3 RS...........if its not, there really isn't that much point to it.
04-20-2020, 08:54 AM
#68
Burning Brakes
The RS moniker is the top of the line, the best the GT division can deliver for a particular generation................The GT3 RS is a very special car, there is no reason why the GT4 RS can't be as special as the GT3 RS...........if its not, there really isn't that much point to it.
04-20-2020, 04:48 PM
#69
Burning Brakes
The RS moniker is the top of the line, the best the GT division can deliver for a particular generation................The GT3 RS is a very special car, there is no reason why the GT4 RS can't be as special as the GT3 RS...........if its not, there really isn't that much point to it.
04-20-2020, 05:13 PM
#70
Porsche has a very specific price/perf target. You've probably seen the graphs posted before. The best GT4RS would have a GT3 engine which is simply not happening. It's not as though Porsche isn't able to produce a multi-link rear suspension since there are aftermarket options. I'm one who would eagerly pay GT3 money for a GT4RS that had the GT3 engine and was 6MT (I'd even pay the PDK charge to get 6MT as a "free" option!). Not going to happen.
04-20-2020, 10:00 PM
#71
Burning Brakes
For sure. You can bet there are many a boardroom discussion about this balance. With most car companies it is discussions around price elasticity, with Porsche it’s surely about power elasticity.
04-20-2020, 10:41 PM
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Hmm. Its ticking almost all the boxes, but I've resigned myself to the fact it will never be the perfect car I want. 550HP, multilink suspension, crazy aero etc. But one thing the GT4 excels in, is as a daily driver, and the fact that it is also a great track car when needed is awesome. I so much pefer driving this as a daily and going to the local hardware store to pick up plants or pool chemicals etc than say if it was in a Ferrari or Lambo or whatever.
550 HP;
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/1175...ort-build.html
Multilink;
https://www.autoquestcars.com/custom-09
Love the house!
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GAZZ (04-21-2020)
04-21-2020, 01:21 AM
#73
OK, so thats it, its 24 hours old and I'm off to the shop. I dont care. lets go.
Up on the hoist and we are doing the exhaust flap bypass. Bit of shame, but lets give it a go. By now you can properly tell that I’m a passionate car guy and love the mid engine Porsche. The exhaust on the 981 was perfect, it got neutered. Anyway... So its now an improvement for sure, but as the engine tuning is all Planet friendly, down shifts are still silent.
I can still hear the cylinder cut at various load / speed / RPM combos which results in a burr sound. - Whatever.
Sorry for the rant at the end but I had to let it out. Still love the car, I highly reccomend it.
Thanks Porsche for all the improvements. Exhaust dept, please explain yourself.
Up on the hoist and we are doing the exhaust flap bypass. Bit of shame, but lets give it a go. By now you can properly tell that I’m a passionate car guy and love the mid engine Porsche. The exhaust on the 981 was perfect, it got neutered. Anyway... So its now an improvement for sure, but as the engine tuning is all Planet friendly, down shifts are still silent.
I can still hear the cylinder cut at various load / speed / RPM combos which results in a burr sound. - Whatever.
Sorry for the rant at the end but I had to let it out. Still love the car, I highly reccomend it.
Thanks Porsche for all the improvements. Exhaust dept, please explain yourself.
04-21-2020, 01:42 AM
#74
I'd jump to the GT4RS if it was manual.
The crazy thing is my modified (just bolt-ons) 987.2S with A050s on is slightly faster than the GT4 (neg 2 camber setup, Trofeo R) around the track. 987.2 pulls 2.1Gs in the corner, such fun. So for me I would need more mods on the 981GT4 to get to the next level on a car that is now 5 years old. Thus one reason to start with a 718GT4.
The 987.2 won club outright comp 3 times. Cant now due to too many much newer and faster 911s'.
The crazy thing is my modified (just bolt-ons) 987.2S with A050s on is slightly faster than the GT4 (neg 2 camber setup, Trofeo R) around the track. 987.2 pulls 2.1Gs in the corner, such fun. So for me I would need more mods on the 981GT4 to get to the next level on a car that is now 5 years old. Thus one reason to start with a 718GT4.
The 987.2 won club outright comp 3 times. Cant now due to too many much newer and faster 911s'.
04-21-2020, 03:15 AM
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Interesting you brought up the 987.2S vs. 981 GT4, great data point on the corners, but how do you feel about the power to weight between the two? Is the modified 987.2 w/ 3.4L mill feel about just as fast as the GT4 that is slighly heavier? I did math before and the power to weight is pretty much even I think.