subwoofer

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...ngines-tested/

Holy turbo lag! Cayenne Turbo GT too.
I wouldn’t want to own any of the listed cars with the most responsive engines. Silly list.

Certainly (from my experience), in going from the previous generation manual C4S to my manual Boxster 25, I don’t miss the turbo lag or the whistling sounds from the turbos.

Zhao

If a Mitsubishi Mirage G4 is at the top of the chart on something, that chart is broken or is a chart of something you should not care about.

subwoofer

Comparing turbo engines, GTi seems good. Some cars seem to manage turbo lag well if they are not heavily blown. Haha.
I recall when I drove a base Carrera manual in 2017, it felt very responsive but I ended with a laggy 4s because the dealer couldn’t get me a base allocation. Dealer shenanigans as usual. Boxster’s 4 liter is superb.

LehmanZ06

I have a Cayman T manual, and a 2019 RS3.
I have had a 997.2 GT3,

I’m more than happy with my Cayman T. I love it in fact. I don’t need 0-60 any faster in a sports car for the street.

Mattyboi

This comparison is indeed a good way to compare engines like for like but doesn't in any way represent real world driving. Everyone knows a base Cayman or Boxster isn't the most responsive engine but in real world driving it doesn't matter much.

I have a T and its a great car but I bought it because of the chassis, the engine is good enough. In Austria cars are around double the price of places like the USA and the UK so having something like a GTS/Spyder isn't a viable option for me. We also have a tax on engine power each year so another plus point for the base engine is its enough power not not too much.

worf928

Don’t give Car and Driver your clicks. They don’t deserve them and haven’t since the mid-00s.

Let them die.

rasetsu

In what situation does one cruise at 5mph in 1st gear and then have to floor it all of a sudden? Maybe being stuck in traffic going up hill and it suddenly opens ups and you want to race the car next to you to the merge? Irrelevant test for an irrelevant metric.

Xxyion

Man this was one long winded article just to say "Naturally Aspirated engines have instant throttle response while turbo engines have turbo lag".

subwoofer

Yeah it's interesting to me. For comparison, I looked up the same numbers for the 4 liter and it is 3.8 and 4.5 respectively.
Some turbo cars do better of course like the Civic R or the Acura equivalent. The 2.0 liter turbo in the base 718 seems particularly laggy. Like an on-off switch and reminiscent of turbo cars from the 1990s.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

Xxyion

I feel like this year almost more than others there is a clear difference between all the trim levels. I've heard that the 2.5 in the GTS responds differently than the one in the Cayman S...or maybe it was the cooling or something. Unsure but i do also know that the GTS has a longer power band vs the S. And then of course there is the 4.0 so a totally different driving experience all together.

aabarth22

All you have to do to eliminate lag is to press the little "Sport" button on your console. My '17 base Boxster PDK shifts down one gear, revs rise, turbo spools up and it is ready to go! No lag at all.

Drifting

less lag sure, but no lag?
No freaking way outside a track lap.

nineball

take a ride in a 930 and then we can talk about turbo lag

SunnySF

It is stupid to suggest engine responsiveness can be evaluated by comparing 5-60mph with 0-60mph times. Yes, 5-60mph test is a good gauge in evaluating daily engine performance and real-world acceleration numbers. 0-60 times are done usually with some launch control technique. That's why the article believes a Mitsubishi Mirage G4 and Honda Odyssey have "the most responsive" engines. What a joke.

Xxyion

yeah its a really dumb test and a dumb article. It also fails to take into consideration that most economy engines are tuned to basically give a ton of torque for the first 1-2000 RPMs which can make it feel like it's more responsive. My friends 2005 Corolla felt like it would just shoot off the line compared to my BRZ but it would lose steam at like 10 mph.