2017 718 Cayman S Purchase - Advice needed
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Really appreciate the feedbacks guys. So $66,895 was the price from last week and now they've lowered it to $65,935 as you can see on their website. The salesman I'm talking to was able to get $1.2k additional discount, but their dealer doc and other fees are almost $2.5k total and hence all add up to around $71.5k. It's outrageous but I heard this is not unusual in FL?
As for the wrap, I really hate it too but they have already taken it off to double check the area so the look is not a concern anymore. Not sure what to do because it's really hard to find a CPO S in this price range. How much should I offer if I were to buy it?
As for the wrap, I really hate it too but they have already taken it off to double check the area so the look is not a concern anymore. Not sure what to do because it's really hard to find a CPO S in this price range. How much should I offer if I were to buy it?
Last edited by coupefrv; 10-25-2022 at 02:50 AM.
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Better that the car is white now but it still has those black wheels which probably doesn’t look nice. I wonder why they still have the black pictures posted?
With the accident history I personally wouldn’t offer over $50k for this car. Do a quick look and see what carvana would offer for this VIN with the mileage and accident history. That’s probably a good starting point.
You also need to build their dealer fees into the price you offer. That’s an outrageous number. Their asking price is really $68,435 when you add the made up fees.
With the accident history I personally wouldn’t offer over $50k for this car. Do a quick look and see what carvana would offer for this VIN with the mileage and accident history. That’s probably a good starting point.
You also need to build their dealer fees into the price you offer. That’s an outrageous number. Their asking price is really $68,435 when you add the made up fees.
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coupefrv (10-25-2022)
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I'm living a bit in the past for prices but it's really hard for me to get over the fact that they're asking for basically what that car cost new and it's 7 years old and one of the poorer examples of a 718 out there, and usually cayman S's depreciate like crazy and had good discounts when new. 2 years ago you could have had a 981 GT4 for that price. 2 years ago you could have still had a new Cayman S for that price.
As far as today's prices are concerned, I still think that car is just a bad buy. You're looking at it to save money, but IMO it's going to cost you far more on teh back end when you go to sell it then spending more money on something better upfront. You'll never sell that car privately IMO so it's going to be a dealer trade in. 4 owners, accident history, probably some rough edges we can't see in pictures... I bet after our era of high demand low supply cars when things go more normalish Porsche dealers will wholesale that thing as far away from their lot as possible. You definitely have other options in florida that are better from what I see for similar money, like the carmine red one at a merc dealer (another terrible interior color imo but it looks like a way better car to me) or go out of state.
There are people on here that will go check out a car for you if you're not wasting their time, or even if you are. I know I would as long as I had the time.
As far as today's prices are concerned, I still think that car is just a bad buy. You're looking at it to save money, but IMO it's going to cost you far more on teh back end when you go to sell it then spending more money on something better upfront. You'll never sell that car privately IMO so it's going to be a dealer trade in. 4 owners, accident history, probably some rough edges we can't see in pictures... I bet after our era of high demand low supply cars when things go more normalish Porsche dealers will wholesale that thing as far away from their lot as possible. You definitely have other options in florida that are better from what I see for similar money, like the carmine red one at a merc dealer (another terrible interior color imo but it looks like a way better car to me) or go out of state.
There are people on here that will go check out a car for you if you're not wasting their time, or even if you are. I know I would as long as I had the time.
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coupefrv (10-25-2022)
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I'm living a bit in the past for prices but it's really hard for me to get over the fact that they're asking for basically what that car cost new and it's 7 years old and one of the poorer examples of a 718 out there, and usually cayman S's depreciate like crazy and had good discounts when new. 2 years ago you could have had a 981 GT4 for that price. 2 years ago you could have still had a new Cayman S for that price.
As far as today's prices are concerned, I still think that car is just a bad buy. You're looking at it to save money, but IMO it's going to cost you far more on teh back end when you go to sell it then spending more money on something better upfront. You'll never sell that car privately IMO so it's going to be a dealer trade in. 4 owners, accident history, probably some rough edges we can't see in pictures... I bet after our era of high demand low supply cars when things go more normalish Porsche dealers will wholesale that thing as far away from their lot as possible. You definitely have other options in florida that are better from what I see for similar money, like the carmine red one at a merc dealer (another terrible interior color imo but it looks like a way better car to me) or go out of state.
There are people on here that will go check out a car for you if you're not wasting their time, or even if you are. I know I would as long as I had the time.
As far as today's prices are concerned, I still think that car is just a bad buy. You're looking at it to save money, but IMO it's going to cost you far more on teh back end when you go to sell it then spending more money on something better upfront. You'll never sell that car privately IMO so it's going to be a dealer trade in. 4 owners, accident history, probably some rough edges we can't see in pictures... I bet after our era of high demand low supply cars when things go more normalish Porsche dealers will wholesale that thing as far away from their lot as possible. You definitely have other options in florida that are better from what I see for similar money, like the carmine red one at a merc dealer (another terrible interior color imo but it looks like a way better car to me) or go out of state.
There are people on here that will go check out a car for you if you're not wasting their time, or even if you are. I know I would as long as I had the time.
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cbracerx (10-25-2022)
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Originally Posted by gobble
Yuk, it's black. I'm sorry but that's one of the ugliest 718's I've ever seen. The entire car is black. If you park it next to a nice color 718 you won't even notice this car sitting there.
What I'm still unsure of is why you're fervently pressing the issue of the colors and what does or doesn't "look nice", when color choice is entirely subjective. We all try to be helpful on these boards, but persecuting color choice is the opposite of helpful.
I get that the wrap is a huge turn-off, but would you believe that some people actually like black cars?
To be clear, I say "objectively bad config" after ranting about how we shouldn't apply our personal tastes when giving advice... because this car is a bad config. As Zhao already pointed out above, it's like someone did some research on what options are popular, and made sure not to select a single one. Even if you did buy it and have many happy miles in it, you'd have a really hard time clawing money back from it when you ever did look to move on from it.
There has to be a better one out there for you.
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With the updated info, put me in the hard no camp also. Reasons have already been elaborated by others. Even in the current market, that's a $60k car at best all in. In a year if the market corrects, it will be a $40k car. Run don't walk.
Last edited by ldamelio; 10-25-2022 at 07:59 PM.
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Really appreciate the feedbacks guys. So $66,895 was the price from last week and now they've lowered it to $65,935 as you can see on their website. The salesman I'm talking to was able to get $1.2k additional discount, but their dealer doc and other fees are almost $2.5k total and hence all add up to around $71.5k. It's outrageous but I heard this is not unusual in FL?
As for the wrap, I really hate it too but they have already taken it off to double check the area so the look is not a concern anymore. Not sure what to do because it's really hard to find a CPO S in this price range. How much should I offer if I were to buy it?
As for the wrap, I really hate it too but they have already taken it off to double check the area so the look is not a concern anymore. Not sure what to do because it's really hard to find a CPO S in this price range. How much should I offer if I were to buy it?
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coupefrv (10-26-2022)
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While I agree that the current market is stupid, even before covid, you couldn't get this car for anywhere near $40k. Base 718s were still in the high 40s, closer to $50k.
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nineball (10-27-2022)
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1) the used 718 market returning to pre-pandemic
2) this particular car is particularly undesireable (accident hx, multiple owners, spec, wrap, etc)
I think it will be in the high 40's FMV a year from now.
Last edited by ldamelio; 10-27-2022 at 10:01 AM.