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Old 02-11-2022, 03:50 PM
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Default Cayman T is lighter with better gas mileage….

Than the 4.0 GTS Cayman.

Motor Trend did a test of the 4.0 Boxster. Which has virtually the identical performance numbers to the T.

T is quieter, less expensive, smoother riding, with virtually identical performance numbers.

AND not to mention I think the T looks better, and is more exclusive (less examples available).

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Preach it Lehman!!

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Case closed
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There’s no shortage of people offering that opinion. Pretty sure GTS 4.0 buyers don’t care too much.
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T is nice because 2.0 engine is nice. I liked it better than the more agricultural 2.5. Less power, but seemed more refined.
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Originally Posted by sanderabernathy
There’s no shortage of people offering that opinion. Pretty sure GTS 4.0 buyers don’t care too much.
We don’t. 🤣 To each their own.
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IMO the real reason numbers are so few is because the T is the car everyone likes that no one would buy. I love the idea of a T, absolutely love it, but I couldn't wrap my head around actually buying one.

The T is a very expensive base model priced as near to an S as it doesn't matter, but is almost guaranteed to be built with a hefty amount of options to the point where it is getting very close to GTS stripper pricing, or even exceeding GTS stripper pricing. I've never seen a T for sale with a MSRP under 90g in my country, and a GTS starts at high 90s here so most people are logically going to go with the 4.0L even if it means stretching their budget or skipping out on a few options to keep it in budget.

Also, sometimes the more expensive car upfront makes far more sense financially when you factor in the backend, so there probably are a lot of people speculating that 10-15g more on a GTS that will likely depreciate far better thx to the 4.0L engine may actually be the cheaper option in the long run. It's one of the reasons I had no problem convincing my wife buying a GT car made a lot more sense than a cheaper car when I showed her historical depreciation on various Porsche models.
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Originally Posted by Zhao
IMO the real reason numbers are so few is because the T is the car everyone likes that no one would buy. I love the idea of a T, absolutely love it, but I couldn't wrap my head around actually buying one.

The T is a very expensive base model priced as near to an S as it doesn't matter, but is almost guaranteed to be built with a hefty amount of options to the point where it is getting very close to GTS stripper pricing, or even exceeding GTS stripper pricing. I've never seen a T for sale with a MSRP under 90g in my country, and a GTS starts at high 90s here so most people are logically going to go with the 4.0L even if it means stretching their budget or skipping out on a few options to keep it in budget.

Also, sometimes the more expensive car upfront makes far more sense financially when you factor in the backend, so there probably are a lot of people speculating that 10-15g more on a GTS that will likely depreciate far better thx to the 4.0L engine may actually be the cheaper option in the long run. It's one of the reasons I had no problem convincing my wife buying a GT car made a lot more sense than a cheaper car when I showed her historical depreciation on various Porsche models.
+ 1 for every word. Always felt the T is a fabulous ‘pure’ drivers car but unjustifiable in terms of relative price
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Originally Posted by Zhao
IMO the real reason numbers are so few is because the T is the car everyone likes that no one would buy. I love the idea of a T, absolutely love it, but I couldn't wrap my head around actually buying one.

The T is a very expensive base model priced as near to an S as it doesn't matter, but is almost guaranteed to be built with a hefty amount of options to the point where it is getting very close to GTS stripper pricing, or even exceeding GTS stripper pricing. I've never seen a T for sale with a MSRP under 90g in my country, and a GTS starts at high 90s here so most people are logically going to go with the 4.0L even if it means stretching their budget or skipping out on a few options to keep it in budget.

Also, sometimes the more expensive car upfront makes far more sense financially when you factor in the backend, so there probably are a lot of people speculating that 10-15g more on a GTS that will likely depreciate far better thx to the 4.0L engine may actually be the cheaper option in the long run. It's one of the reasons I had no problem convincing my wife buying a GT car made a lot more sense than a cheaper car when I showed her historical depreciation on various Porsche models.
I have a 21 T that I got last few days of January 2021 in Atlanta. I was not intending to get a T at all and even though I absolutely loved how it was spec'd, I held firm on being willing to buy it only if they sold it at the price it would be without all the upgrades not on my "must have" list. They let me walk (all the way back to Miami as I was only visiting) but called me a few days later and said if I can get back up there before month's end they'll take my offer. Sticker price was $84,999 not including 6.5% sales tax and I got it for $80k even out the door. I certainly doubt this would happen in the current crazy market, but it does seem to back up many of your points anyway.
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Great deal. Sadly, given the current market, pretty rare.
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Ooooh gas mileage. that is always my first decision point. Not....

People buying 100 k car's who are concerned about gas mileage are either planning lots of long trips and just loathe stopping for gas, or are a bit off.

Mike

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LoL. Responses too serious.
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Originally Posted by BondJ
Great deal. Sadly, given the current market, pretty rare.
Very much so. I'm not sure quite how long after that the car market went insane, but I think I was among the last group to get in before that point. Definitely feel lucky.
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Originally Posted by Aronis
Ooooh gas mileage. that is always my first decision point. Not....

People buying 100 k car's who are concerned about gas mileage are either planning lots of long trips and just loathe stopping for gas, or are a bit off.

Mike
Even run of mill cars are getting expensive. 100k doesn’t buy what it once did.

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It’s how you use them.



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