Silly 356 question
05-06-2007, 11:50 AM
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Silly 356 question
Approx how many hours of shop work does it take (typically), for a complete 356 restoration ?
Of course I know, no two project cars are similar.
I am trying to get a "ballpark estimate," for the following type of project:
Rusty floorboards (typical rust removal)
Completely strip the old paint and prep
Rebuild the engine and carbs
Gauge rebuild
Rebuild suspension / brakes
Reupholster the interior / repack seats + new carpets
Required machine work
paint the car
electrical ? transmission ?
obtain replacement parts
+ the unknown
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In addition, I am looking for an excellent properly restored car, upon finishing the project. - Not a show car.
What is more advantageous financially, to buy a running driver vs a parked non-running car that has sat ? Will you typically save a lot of time on the resto with the driver, vs the parked non-running car ?
Running drivers, seem to be priced approx 10-15K, over a parked non-running car.
Of course I know, no two project cars are similar.
I am trying to get a "ballpark estimate," for the following type of project:
Rusty floorboards (typical rust removal)
Completely strip the old paint and prep
Rebuild the engine and carbs
Gauge rebuild
Rebuild suspension / brakes
Reupholster the interior / repack seats + new carpets
Required machine work
paint the car
electrical ? transmission ?
obtain replacement parts
+ the unknown
_____________
In addition, I am looking for an excellent properly restored car, upon finishing the project. - Not a show car.
What is more advantageous financially, to buy a running driver vs a parked non-running car that has sat ? Will you typically save a lot of time on the resto with the driver, vs the parked non-running car ?
Running drivers, seem to be priced approx 10-15K, over a parked non-running car.
Last edited by ralfabco; 05-06-2007 at 12:18 PM.
05-06-2007, 01:24 PM
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Get Jim Kelloggs' 356 Restoration Guide...it will help you to understand work/time...great book...
a link to Jim's site:
http://www.356restore.com/
a link to Jim's site:
http://www.356restore.com/
05-06-2007, 02:33 PM
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what determines the duration, cost of materials, and labor cost of a 356 restoration?
just my observations...
#1 physical condition of the chassis / body at the start.
#2 how much effort you are performing vs outsourcing.
#3 clarity of & discipline to achieve the intended goal.
#4 mechanical systems condition.
#5 the completeness of the car at the inception of the project.
the driving / stored issue plays on these factors in that a) it is easier or harder to make a projection of future efforts & costs, b) what the (shared?) perception of current market value is, and c) negotiation dynamics. however, a "real" restoration is going to turn that driver into a non-running car anyway... isn't it? so, if I were acquiring a car w/ the understanding that I was to embark immediately upon a complete restoration, whether a specific example was a driver or not would not be as relevant as its specific condition, my standards and my budget.
Ed & Charles links on the Body section of the 356 Registry site may give you an idea of what you are in for... http://www.356registry.org/Tech/index.html
be prepared for everyone to tell you it is wiser to buy an already completed restoration - but what does wisdom have to do with it? also be prepared to face a log function expansion of all your projections - & that's the known part. good luck!
just my observations...
#1 physical condition of the chassis / body at the start.
#2 how much effort you are performing vs outsourcing.
#3 clarity of & discipline to achieve the intended goal.
#4 mechanical systems condition.
#5 the completeness of the car at the inception of the project.
the driving / stored issue plays on these factors in that a) it is easier or harder to make a projection of future efforts & costs, b) what the (shared?) perception of current market value is, and c) negotiation dynamics. however, a "real" restoration is going to turn that driver into a non-running car anyway... isn't it? so, if I were acquiring a car w/ the understanding that I was to embark immediately upon a complete restoration, whether a specific example was a driver or not would not be as relevant as its specific condition, my standards and my budget.
Ed & Charles links on the Body section of the 356 Registry site may give you an idea of what you are in for... http://www.356registry.org/Tech/index.html
be prepared for everyone to tell you it is wiser to buy an already completed restoration - but what does wisdom have to do with it? also be prepared to face a log function expansion of all your projections - & that's the known part. good luck!
05-06-2007, 08:26 PM
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what i think, to consider is this:
the price you buy your car for... at least 50k for a speedster in any shape.
and then add to it about 150k for restoration.
these figures seem a little steep but shop around for a pristine resto-job and that is what you
get nower days.
the price you buy your car for... at least 50k for a speedster in any shape.
and then add to it about 150k for restoration.
these figures seem a little steep but shop around for a pristine resto-job and that is what you
get nower days.
