Crap - 997.2 clutch just went - Cost?
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Bruce, sorry to hear about the clutch failure, but I'd say you got your money out of that one with the current mileage. Maybe the next one will go even further without miles from the PO.
I thought the clutch was self-bleeding on the .2 cars vs. the .1 where you have to access the bleed nipple above the trans. Is that not the case?
I thought the clutch was self-bleeding on the .2 cars vs. the .1 where you have to access the bleed nipple above the trans. Is that not the case?
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Bruce, sorry to hear about the clutch failure, but I'd say you got your money out of that one with the current mileage. Maybe the next one will go even further without miles from the PO.
I thought the clutch was self-bleeding on the .2 cars vs. the .1 where you have to access the bleed nipple above the trans. Is that not the case?
I thought the clutch was self-bleeding on the .2 cars vs. the .1 where you have to access the bleed nipple above the trans. Is that not the case?
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Crap.... it was the clutch.... wore out. Darn I am a loser. Well, I am going to blame this on the previous owner..... I learned all kind of responsibility avoidance techniques since I got married.
He doesn't know if the flywheel requires replacement.... will know later today. Has to order parts, and should be done tomorrow.... worst case with flywheel, $4200. Didn't catch what he said about the price for the non-flywheel estimate 'cause I was busy throwing up.
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He doesn't know if the flywheel requires replacement.... will know later today. Has to order parts, and should be done tomorrow.... worst case with flywheel, $4200. Didn't catch what he said about the price for the non-flywheel estimate 'cause I was busy throwing up.
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Bruce,
I am sure you already know to ask for a discount! A minimum of 10%; hopefully 20%. Mention you are a PCA member or that you are an angel doing Gods work.
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Talk to my friend Chris (CBRacerx on Rennlist). He has been working on Porsches for 30 years, and he opened up a side business doing repairs and modifications. He lives in the New Hope PA area, but I'm sure you guys can arrange to trailer your car to him. I'm sure his rates are lower than the dealership, and you won't be disappointed with the work.
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$3600 for clutch kit RMS and LN Engineering IMS replace. Flywheel was OK (phew).
They really wanted to drop the pan and look for any signs of IMS failure. Since I check the oil filters and send oil in for analysis, I declined. Also didn't want to pay them for an oil change when I can do it myself.
If the original IMS is partially failed, I may have to re-evaluate.
55K miles
Good luck.
They really wanted to drop the pan and look for any signs of IMS failure. Since I check the oil filters and send oil in for analysis, I declined. Also didn't want to pay them for an oil change when I can do it myself.
If the original IMS is partially failed, I may have to re-evaluate.
55K miles
Good luck.
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Thanks for the free plug! This car already made it to the dealer, but I do offer trailer pickup.
Chris
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Hi Chris. I'm a 997.1 C2S owner in the Philly area. I'd love to check out the shop sometime.
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$3600 for clutch kit and LN Engineering IMS replace. Flywheel was OK (phew).
They really wanted to drop the pan and look for any signs of IMS failure. Since I check the oil filters and send oil in for analysis, I declined. Also didn't want to pay them for an oil change when I can do it myself.
If the original IMS is partially failed, I may have to re-evaluate.
55K miles
Good luck.
They really wanted to drop the pan and look for any signs of IMS failure. Since I check the oil filters and send oil in for analysis, I declined. Also didn't want to pay them for an oil change when I can do it myself.
If the original IMS is partially failed, I may have to re-evaluate.
55K miles
Good luck.
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Said they would look for metal in the pan at which point the engine isn't worth proceeding with.
But I think it would be depending on further evaluation and maybe a light rebuild?
Prolly not worded best by the mechanic. If you have metal in the pan, a clutch becomes the lesser of your worries and you need to stop there and make some decisions. They may also not want to proceed with any work from a liability standpoint.
The IMS brg and RMS are behind the flywheel so you have to remove it - more labor and some new bolts I believe.
Hopefully the IMS brg is fine - I'm going to save it as a paperweight.
But I think it would be depending on further evaluation and maybe a light rebuild?
Prolly not worded best by the mechanic. If you have metal in the pan, a clutch becomes the lesser of your worries and you need to stop there and make some decisions. They may also not want to proceed with any work from a liability standpoint.
The IMS brg and RMS are behind the flywheel so you have to remove it - more labor and some new bolts I believe.
Hopefully the IMS brg is fine - I'm going to save it as a paperweight.
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Turns out the clutch itself had some life left - the pressure plate not so much. A few broken pieces. Poor quality in my opinion after 55k miles. RMS and IMS (my new paper weight) out the door for $3500.
Now I can sleep at night not worrying about my engine exploding. Ha ha.
BTW - Original bearing was in great shape.
Now I can sleep at night not worrying about my engine exploding. Ha ha.
BTW - Original bearing was in great shape.
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Crap.... it was the clutch.... wore out. Darn I am a loser. Well, I am going to blame this on the previous owner..... I learned all kind of responsibility avoidance techniques since I got married.
He doesn't know if the flywheel requires replacement.... will know later today. Has to order parts, and should be done tomorrow.... worst case with flywheel, $4200. Didn't catch what he said about the price for the non-flywheel estimate 'cause I was busy throwing up.
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Bruce in Philly
He doesn't know if the flywheel requires replacement.... will know later today. Has to order parts, and should be done tomorrow.... worst case with flywheel, $4200. Didn't catch what he said about the price for the non-flywheel estimate 'cause I was busy throwing up.
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Bruce in Philly
As a clutch wears the clutch release lever changes position and some leverage advantage is lost. This is often why a clutch becomes harder to operate when it is near the end of its life.
But those pivot points can have quite small areas that are hardened. If the wear causes the pivot point to move off its hardened area any excessive wear can be a problem. The tech should clean these and carefully inspect them for any signs of wear.
There is a ball pin too that needs to be inspected. Actually the clutch release lever is around $35 and the ball pin around $12 so I'd just be inclined to replace them.
There are other parts in there and none look to be expensive (see link below). Heck replace them all.
http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-p...section=301-00
One might even replace the slave cylinder too. However, that is on the outside of the bell housing so if one didn't replace it then had to the transmission doesn't have to be dropped again.
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Crap.... it was the clutch.... wore out. Darn I am a loser. Well, I am going to blame this on the previous owner..... I learned all kind of responsibility avoidance techniques since I got married.
He doesn't know if the flywheel requires replacement.... will know later today. Has to order parts, and should be done tomorrow.... worst case with flywheel, $4200. Didn't catch what he said about the price for the non-flywheel estimate 'cause I was busy throwing up.
Peace
Bruce in Philly
He doesn't know if the flywheel requires replacement.... will know later today. Has to order parts, and should be done tomorrow.... worst case with flywheel, $4200. Didn't catch what he said about the price for the non-flywheel estimate 'cause I was busy throwing up.
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Bruce in Philly
I feel your pain ... I had to replace mine 2 years ago on my 2010 4S. I did the whole enchilada (clutch + flywheel) with my indy for $3,500 all in
