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I recently purchused a 2000 Boxster S in which I plan to use primarily for track and DE events (non-competitive). With the optional hardtop fitted, is it then safe to use the car with the standard roll bars? I know with the convertible top most folks fit roll bar extensions, I would think with the hard top that might be overkill. Any suggestions.
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I think it depends on what you're expecting regarding roll over protection. I believe you're fine to run with no extension with any sanctioning body with a hard top fitted- though if I were you and setting up my car for mostly DE/track use, I'd be fitting seats & harnesses. If after the install of seats & harnesses the top of my helmet is above the factory roll bar- I'd fit a BK (or comparable) extension. The height of the roll bar is especially important when you're securely mounted as you are with harnesses. Any aftermarket roll bar in a coupe hugs the roofline for good reason.... If you're 5'8 and have plenty of room above your helmet I wouldn't worry- but if you're 6'0 like me- it's cheap insurance. I have an '03 S with the BK extension FYI.
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Depends on your height and the track, too; you need to be able to pass a broomstick test with your helmet on, which is difficult for most of us due to how short the hoops are. Also, some tracks (like VIR) require the BK rollbar extension because of risk that the factory hoop rollbars can sink in soft dirt- they want to see the straight bar. I don't think hard or soft top makes a difference, but it may boil down to individual track rules. If this is primarily a track toy, makes sense to add the bar, just for the extra safety.
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Thanks for all your input. I realize as my track experience grows I will be adding seats, harness and roll cage. In my neck of the woods, most of the guys who have cars so equipped have graduated to racing, as I am still at the yellow/instructor level. The extension bar though makes sense.
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I have a Boxster S 80-90% drive to track car But I want to keep seats stock What can I do to strap myself in better? Note seats have integrated headrest so not sure how a multi point harness can be done
I've added bk bar and pads.
Thx Mike
I've added bk bar and pads.
Thx Mike
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It seems that some organizers apply the following rules : if you participate to a DE and have "sticky tires", (anything with "R" compound), then, you must have a "BK" type extension bar.
This protection bar is a bit higher, and goes "all the way". I think it makes a lot of sense to "play the game" this way. (Note that you can close the roof, ..with the BK bar in position.
I just bought a Boxster S with the same motivation (DE, AX, etc..) and, ..also bought a BK extension bar.
If you do not like the "asthetic", then, it is quite easy to remove ..after the DE.
(To mount the bar, you also have to remove (unclip) the 2 wind stoppers and remove the plastics "surrounding" the original roll bar.)
This protection bar is a bit higher, and goes "all the way". I think it makes a lot of sense to "play the game" this way. (Note that you can close the roof, ..with the BK bar in position.
I just bought a Boxster S with the same motivation (DE, AX, etc..) and, ..also bought a BK extension bar.
If you do not like the "asthetic", then, it is quite easy to remove ..after the DE.
(To mount the bar, you also have to remove (unclip) the 2 wind stoppers and remove the plastics "surrounding" the original roll bar.)
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I started down the path of a 986 Boxster drive-to-track car about a year ago. Added the B-K extension/pads first. Found a used set of GT3 bucket seats, but still marginal for the broomstick test (I'm 6-1). So got the B-K lower seat mounts. Then ready to put in the 6 pts, but found the geometry wrong for the shoulder belts and hans using the oem roll hoops cross bar- too high once I got the helmet clearance right. So then got a harness bar from Stable Energies. It's a Safety devices universal bar that they custom cut to length for the 986. That's where I am now. Getting ready to order the harnesses and hardware. Plus need the B-K sub bars. Found a used hardtop locally for a good price. But my car didn't have the spin locks. Must be about the most overpriced Porsche parts - and that's saying something.
It has turned out a bit more complicated and costly than I thought, but it's a fun little car for DE.
It has turned out a bit more complicated and costly than I thought, but it's a fun little car for DE.
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#14
Drifting
Great looking car. Serious cage :-)
Can you ditch the headlights? Or at least remove them for events you don't need them?
Maybe make a simple carbon fibre cover.
How much wiring have you stripped out?
How much of the bumper system is removed behind the fascia?
Can you goto lighter wheels?
What's spec limit 2560???
Mike
Can you ditch the headlights? Or at least remove them for events you don't need them?
Maybe make a simple carbon fibre cover.
How much wiring have you stripped out?
How much of the bumper system is removed behind the fascia?
Can you goto lighter wheels?
What's spec limit 2560???
Mike