Europipe stage 1 or stage 2?
The following users liked this post:
jayi836 (07-28-2019)
#62
Burning Brakes
Either way I really enjoy the cold start sound on most of the AM ehaust including both EP versions.
As soon as I can sample a car with GMG it's yours, I'll even get it polished up for you!
As soon as I can sample a car with GMG it's yours, I'll even get it polished up for you!
#67
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
#69
I don't get what you say about "anytime a manufacturer actually says it drones" though. So far the only manufacturer I've come across honest enough to admit their system drones is Europipe with their EP2. The rest of em keep it under wraps and let you part with the hard earned letting you find that out. Sucks really.
Also agree with the EP1. For the sake of the extra 2 hp you get with EP2 you get it all anyway….no drone, noticeable power gains, great sound inside and out. Just a shame for you that you required a quieter system for the hospital car park…..totally understand you gotta work hard on keeping those patents of yours happy iykwim Bad enough you leaving em with a sore tail least of all sore ears too lol.
Now with EP2, from the ones I've heard on the Greek's cars, they are nowhere near as bad as all the others that all basically drone like ***** right throughout the entire cruising rev range making it impossible to escape. The EP2 doesn't do that so you can escape the small zone which it produces it in. And the other thing with the EP2 is at least it makes very good power, and sounds good. Can't say that about the others, unless they have a tune to compensate for what they took out in stock file trim. Not a good sign on any front frankly imho. Been there done that….not going there again. EP ticks all the right boxes for me.
Yep I quite like the cold start too. Sounds very crackly. It's a pity that disappears on hot idle. That said once you stand on it, it comes back again.
#70
Race Director
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: KC ex pat marooned in NY
Posts: 13,005
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes
on
14 Posts
I had the ep1, bought it brand new vat and all, unlike most. It's a great exhaust, sounds below average (to me and the other docs) on cold start, but otherwise good.
Sorry, but every vid clip I've heard of the ep2, frankly doesn't sound good at all, perhaps it's better in person, but I would never buy one.
I think the po may be rethinking the ep2, I'd suggest asking stef to trade for an ep1 if the drone is unbearable.
Sorry, but every vid clip I've heard of the ep2, frankly doesn't sound good at all, perhaps it's better in person, but I would never buy one.
I think the po may be rethinking the ep2, I'd suggest asking stef to trade for an ep1 if the drone is unbearable.
#71
I had the ep1, bought it brand new vat and all, unlike most. It's a great exhaust, sounds below average (to me and the other docs) on cold start, but otherwise good.
Sorry, but every vid clip I've heard of the ep2, frankly doesn't sound good at all, perhaps it's better in person, but I would never buy one.
I think the po may be rethinking the ep2, I'd suggest asking stef to trade for an ep1 if the drone is unbearable.
Sorry, but every vid clip I've heard of the ep2, frankly doesn't sound good at all, perhaps it's better in person, but I would never buy one.
I think the po may be rethinking the ep2, I'd suggest asking stef to trade for an ep1 if the drone is unbearable.
I've had a good listen to the 2 from from travelling behind one on more than one occasion now and the 2 sounds as good as most would ever want. In so far as the interior drone of the 2 goes, in the type of driving these guys did it really did not appear to manifest itself as being a problem to be honest but that isn't saying that trundling around town wouldn't be a different story there. As is said beforehand, the EP1 ticks all the boxes without any of the drone issues so that system is a given quantity for any buyer. Sound wise I honestly didn't find the 2 (from the outside) to be that much different to the 1 anyway. So yes for the sake of the 2 extra hp that the 2 gives you over the 1 you would have to seriously question yourself do you really want to take that risk where the drone factor is concerned. I still say the drone zone of the 2 is nothing like most otter AM systems are for the .1tt car, which to me are simply not sustainable for the user (unless they have hearing problems). I can see why so many of these cars with these types of AM systems wind up as weekenders where they are taken out for short beatings…..user then comes back and takes a few Panadol and has a little lay down etc….never admits it of course due to the $ paid. The EP1 on the other hand can be used as an everyday all purpose car, long trips etc, as I think you may have found….with exception of course to the doctors car park.
#73
Like yourself doc no way would I live with drone under any circumstances least of all in an expensive car like a porsche turbo. That said, again the EP2 drone is nothing near on the level as that idiotic pansy you know over on 6 with that headache factory CG. His thread was THE most ridiculous account I've ever read in living memory. Fancy dribbling on like that trying to educate the Porsche Turbo community that they can't drive their cars under 3000 rpms. Complete nonsense. Now that system of his, like most of them like it, would be un-returnable even to the manufacturer which is precisely the reason why they are so tight lipped when selling this crap. All destined for the dumpster at one point..
#75
So, instead of fishing for Toms old Tubi 2 can, you should perhaps keep your eye out for an EP2. BUT, you will have to pay much more than an old tubi 2 can which shouldn't really matter because it is well worth the extra $ as it drones less yet performs infinitely better, so Im pretty sure that is the kind of thing you would want for your car.