Centerlocks - I'm out! ....Hello 5-lug conversion!
#137
Race Director
It's very expensive to change...I looked into it since I'm about to buy new track wheels....$2400 in parts, $6000 in wheels going the cheap OZ route for streets and track, $1700 in labor.....add it up!
#138
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Mdrums,
Remember to subtract the proceeds from selling your existing used CL wheel set(s)......
......then you will be happier!
Then you can Rock'n roll all night (....and party everyday! )!
Cheers!
Doug N.
Remember to subtract the proceeds from selling your existing used CL wheel set(s)......
......then you will be happier!
Then you can Rock'n roll all night (....and party everyday! )!
Cheers!
Doug N.
#139
Rennlist Member
What Doug said. I will NEVER own of these cars with centerlocks. At least with the current design.
#140
Race Director
I can't find anyone that wants to buy my center locks. I've advertised them and talked to some but they are scared of them from reading all the bad press about center locks on the internet.
#142
Rennlist Member
It's very expensive to change...I looked into it since I'm about to buy new track wheels....$2400 in parts, $6000 in wheels going the cheap OZ route for streets and track, $1700 in labor.....add it up!
#143
Rennlist Member
Forgot to add -- for those sticking w/ CL -- found a good deal on a torque multiplier: Armstrong 64-830 for $395 / in stock.
http://www.wylaco.com/Armstrong-64-8...50-Ft-lb-64830
http://www.wylaco.com/Armstrong-64-8...50-Ft-lb-64830
#144
Race Director
Begrudgingly Agreed. I'm going to stick w/ CL, but only because of the cost to convert to 5-lug. $1,600 in parts (Suncoast) + ~$1,200 labor + $5k wheels + tax, and your lookin' at ~$8,500. I want to get a second set of wheels for track which is really not a factor here (can choose CL or 5-lug pattern) but that's another $5k for wheels / $2k for tires. So all said and done to get a second set of wheels if I go 5-lug conversion: $15.5k. That's more than I'm willing to spend.
I believe that the small amount of center lock failures have been user error. However with that said I WILL NOT buy another Porsche with center locks. If Porsche puts center locks on the new GT3 based cars and in a year or so I'm going to buy a new car I will switch brands no problem...I'm not married to the Porsche brand.
#145
Rennlist Member
Begrudgingly Agreed. I'm going to stick w/ CL, but only because of the cost to convert to 5-lug. $1,600 in parts (Suncoast) + ~$1,200 labor + $5k wheels + tax, and your lookin' at ~$8,500. I want to get a second set of wheels for track which is really not a factor here (can choose CL or 5-lug pattern) but that's another $5k for wheels / $2k for tires. So all said and done to get a second set of wheels if I go 5-lug conversion: $15.5k. That's more than I'm willing to spend.
You have about $3k to do the conversion. Plus the delta between the sale of your stock wheels and a nice set of street wheels. So really you're looking at about $5k. And you'd not only have 5 lug, but you'd also have a bad *** set of street wheels.
You guys are nuts for not doing it. Especially the track guys. Looks like such a pain in the *** watching you people in the pits monkey with these things. Regardless of the safety, I would do it for the pure convenience.
#146
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
I did it for it convenience first, safety second (I never had a technical problem with my CL system) .....although, I never did like them to begin with.
#147
Former Vendor
Hi Guys,
I am a new sponsor and we are building full one piece carbon fiber wheels for the GT3 in 5x130 but I have been receiving a lot of request for the CL my question is out of the majority of Porsche owners with CL how many will convert and how many really want CL?
For our company the CL will require a complete new testing and validation process so I am trying to guage the overall market for CL.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated and you can contact me direct at bill.koenig@carbonrev.com
BTW I own a 997.1 GT3 and I have had two 996 GT3's so I understand the weekend track routine and convenience of the 5 lug system.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Best regards,
Bill Koenig
Director of Sales & Marketing Carbon Revolution
www.carbonrev.com
I am a new sponsor and we are building full one piece carbon fiber wheels for the GT3 in 5x130 but I have been receiving a lot of request for the CL my question is out of the majority of Porsche owners with CL how many will convert and how many really want CL?
For our company the CL will require a complete new testing and validation process so I am trying to guage the overall market for CL.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated and you can contact me direct at bill.koenig@carbonrev.com
BTW I own a 997.1 GT3 and I have had two 996 GT3's so I understand the weekend track routine and convenience of the 5 lug system.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Best regards,
Bill Koenig
Director of Sales & Marketing Carbon Revolution
www.carbonrev.com
#148
Rennlist Member
despite...
the many shortcomings I will stick with CL 19" ... currently have HRE P40CL mounted.
#149
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Hi Guys,
I am a new sponsor and we are building full one piece carbon fiber wheels for the GT3 in 5x130 but I have been receiving a lot of request for the CL my question is out of the majority of Porsche owners with CL how many will convert and how many really want CL?
For our company the CL will require a complete new testing and validation process so I am trying to guage the overall market for CL.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated and you can contact me direct at bill.koenig@carbonrev.com
BTW I own a 997.1 GT3 and I have had two 996 GT3's so I understand the weekend track routine and convenience of the 5 lug system.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Best regards,
Bill Koenig
Director of Sales & Marketing Carbon Revolution
www.carbonrev.com
I am a new sponsor and we are building full one piece carbon fiber wheels for the GT3 in 5x130 but I have been receiving a lot of request for the CL my question is out of the majority of Porsche owners with CL how many will convert and how many really want CL?
For our company the CL will require a complete new testing and validation process so I am trying to guage the overall market for CL.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated and you can contact me direct at bill.koenig@carbonrev.com
BTW I own a 997.1 GT3 and I have had two 996 GT3's so I understand the weekend track routine and convenience of the 5 lug system.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Best regards,
Bill Koenig
Director of Sales & Marketing Carbon Revolution
www.carbonrev.com
If you are making a new wheel for the CL, consider producing an 18" for those who track.
#150
Rennlist Member
You can't figure in a second set of wheels/tires as part of the conversion.
Yes, if in isolation and no other projects or parts -- of course -- the conversion would be cost of parts + labor + tax + cost for replacement wheels (more like $4k for the wheels that I’d want).
However, in weighing in cost of a 5-lug conversion w/ the cost of second set wheels and tires, I'm looking at the total amount of money spent (i.e., budgeting which I hardly think is silly). So, for me, it comes down to 5-lug conversion or second set of wheels + tires. Would love to do both, but the $$$ figure starts to get into stupid territory for me.