Any downsides to using Water Wetter in a street/DE car in a warm weather environment?
#1
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Any downsides to using Water Wetter in a street/DE car in a warm weather environment?
Just curious. The website says it contains lubricants and is safe for modern cooling systems.
From the website: http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=74&pcid=10
* Unique agent for cooling systems that doubles the wetting ability of water
* Rust and corrosion protection allows for use of straight water in racing or reduced antifreeze levels in warm climates
* Improves heat transfer and reduces cylinder head temperature
* May allow more spark advance for increase power and efficiency
* Use one bottle for most passenger cars and light trucks, treats 3 to 5 gallons or 13.2 to 15.9 liters. Vehicles with larger cooling systems should use two bottles. Small cooling systems should use 1oz (3 to 4 capfuls) per quart
* Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOLTM and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
* Satisfies ASTM D2570 and ASTM D1384 corrosion tests for glycol-based antifreezes
WaterWetter - 12oz - $9.95
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ABOUT RED LINE WATER WETTER® COOLANT ADDITIVES
* Reduces or eliminates bubbles or vapor barrier that form on hot metal surfaces to reduce coolant temperatures by up to 20°
* Superior heat transfer properties compared to glycol-based antifreeze
* Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOL and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
* Improves heat transfer and reduces cylinder head temperature
* Designed for use with all modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass and bronze cooling systems
* Cleans and lubricates water pump seals
* Reduces cavitation and complexes with hard water to reduce scaling
* Does not lower cooling system below the thermostatically-controlled temperature
ALSO AVAILABLE FROM OUR DEALERS
* 80204 - WaterWetter - 12oz
From the website: http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=74&pcid=10
* Unique agent for cooling systems that doubles the wetting ability of water
* Rust and corrosion protection allows for use of straight water in racing or reduced antifreeze levels in warm climates
* Improves heat transfer and reduces cylinder head temperature
* May allow more spark advance for increase power and efficiency
* Use one bottle for most passenger cars and light trucks, treats 3 to 5 gallons or 13.2 to 15.9 liters. Vehicles with larger cooling systems should use two bottles. Small cooling systems should use 1oz (3 to 4 capfuls) per quart
* Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOLTM and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
* Satisfies ASTM D2570 and ASTM D1384 corrosion tests for glycol-based antifreezes
WaterWetter - 12oz - $9.95
Quantity
ABOUT RED LINE WATER WETTER® COOLANT ADDITIVES
* Reduces or eliminates bubbles or vapor barrier that form on hot metal surfaces to reduce coolant temperatures by up to 20°
* Superior heat transfer properties compared to glycol-based antifreeze
* Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOL and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
* Improves heat transfer and reduces cylinder head temperature
* Designed for use with all modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass and bronze cooling systems
* Cleans and lubricates water pump seals
* Reduces cavitation and complexes with hard water to reduce scaling
* Does not lower cooling system below the thermostatically-controlled temperature
ALSO AVAILABLE FROM OUR DEALERS
* 80204 - WaterWetter - 12oz
#2
Race Director
Water wetter is for cooling systems that do not use anti-freeze. I was told it will do nothing for systems that use anti-freeze. On the other hand Water Wetter claims it helps systems that use anti-freeze....so...I really don't know.
#3
If you are taking your Mezger-engined water cooled Porsche variant at the track, IMO you should be using water wetter. It works just as well if not better than traditional antifreeze/coolant for the primary purpose of cooling, but does not cause the oil-like slick on the track surface that can take out your car & all those that follow. This is the reason that all race-car sanctioning bodies prohibit antifreeze to be used in the cooling systems of cars participating in W2W racing.
Only downside of which I am aware is that it will freeze when temps get below 32 degrees, so if you drive your ride in the winter in a cold climate, replace H20/water wetter with antifreeze in winter months. Since your question related to warm weather usage, I would say no downsides.
Only downside of which I am aware is that it will freeze when temps get below 32 degrees, so if you drive your ride in the winter in a cold climate, replace H20/water wetter with antifreeze in winter months. Since your question related to warm weather usage, I would say no downsides.
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Thats kind of what I was thinking.... Just get rid of using anti freeze altogether. Its a complete rarity in my area for it drop below freezing. And even when it does for that one day, the the car is garaged. It's not heated, but it generally does stay significantly warmer than the outside temps.
I was more concerned the coolant system rusting or the water pump parts and seals not getting lubed.
Is this a DIY type project, or more of pain in the *** than its worth?
I was more concerned the coolant system rusting or the water pump parts and seals not getting lubed.
Is this a DIY type project, or more of pain in the *** than its worth?
#5
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Definitely worth it. To me, this would be the ONLY way to go with a non-modified Mezger, and I live in Canada eh. I would just add anti-freeze in the fall for when garage dips below freezing and then flush and add W-Wetter in the Spring.
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i run water wetter with water in all my track porsches (after my coolant spin, 3 yrs ago). never had problem, but i live in sunny ca though.
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Even if it does drop below freezing (0 Celsius dammit! What does 0 in Fahrenheit correspond to?) it has to stay significantly below that temperature for a good amount of time to give any trouble. Overnight low of -2 or -3 C is not an issue.
I run Water Wetter in Canada after I popped a cooling hose. Nobody spun off but I did have a small slide on my own coolant on the next lap.
I think any heavily tracked car should use it.
I run Water Wetter in Canada after I popped a cooling hose. Nobody spun off but I did have a small slide on my own coolant on the next lap.
I think any heavily tracked car should use it.
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I think I'm going to let them glue it back together and call it a day. Both after market "solutions" seem to have their own problems.
I figured if I at least switched to WW and distilled water, it may mitigate some of the potential ugliness if I ended up in similar circumstances again.
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I figured if I at least switched to WW and distilled water, it may mitigate some of the potential ugliness if I ended up in similar circumstances again.
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I post a lot of my FLATOUT video's.
End result looks nice, but I don't want others to think I like a system that is a nightmare to operate and learn with crappy manuals, horrific support and counter intuitive software.
End result looks nice, but I don't want others to think I like a system that is a nightmare to operate and learn with crappy manuals, horrific support and counter intuitive software.
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So far all i've done is data analysis. And that seemed pretty reasonable. I have yet to try and merge video with the data though. Heard it's not fun.