"02996ttx50

that's a reasonable concern that you have particularly in view of the fact that a SUPER clean 96t will also put you in a very clean 997.1tt, and if you ask me, that's the better car, and last of that terrific gt1 derived motor.

i would never *rather* have a properly modded 996t over a similarly setup 997turbo. i'm one of the few people i suppose that see most every iteration of the 911 "improve" say what you will about nanny guides and that awful 991 center console interior etc. pound for pound porsche does not get worse. but i'm sure folks will have negatives to report on a gt3 hybrid but lets get serious here. **** gets better, whether we have fondness and appreciation for what we've "got" or what we "remember" ( manual shifting anyone!? lol ). i have been charting this since i drove in my first 911 in probably 66, and remember well my next door neighbors shiny new 911s in 67 and am fine with the notion i may never have a new one again in the drive. it's just that

for the money of a super low garage queen 96t will put you in an immaculate and just broken in 997 turbo. to me, that is a no brainer.

Indiana Jones

I'm inclined to agree...personally, the right price for a 996tt with low miles is mid 40's max. Anything over that and I'd make the push to a 997tt.

bmwtye

In reference to the comment of 996tt over any 997, While the 996tt is a great car I wouldn't take it over a 997 gt3 (I know I'm in the wrong forum). Sure an upgraded 996tt could blow the doors off a gt3 in a drag race or freeway blast, but so could a lot of other cars. For me it's about the driving experience and the feedback a gt car gives you is unparalleled. People want different things from their car, and thankfully porsche has provided many different options to fulfill those needs. Buy the car that fits your needs and drive it and enjoy it. Who cares what anyone thinks.

"02996ttx50

[QUOTE=bmwtye;11790846]In reference to the comment of 996tt over any 997, While the 996tt is a great car I wouldn't take it over a 997 gt3 (I know I'm in the wrong forum). Sure an upgraded 996tt could blow the doors off a gt3 in a drag race or freeway blast, but so could a lot of other cars. For me it's about the driving experience "

I'm inclined to agree with both you and the OP. In fact many have just told me I'd actually be happier in a gt3 but I can't even imagine not having the power on tap my hybrid turbo car provides. As I've said I'm up/down steep and winding tight roads and this thing is always on tap. There is NO lag and how'm i gonna squeeze 550rwhp out of a gt3 with bolt ons.

bmwtye

While u can't get 550rwhp out of a gt3 u can do a 3.9 or 4.1 motor build and have a beast of a NA motor with more than enough for that car (path I'm going down). But obviously it's much cheaper to get big numbers out of the turbo car for far less money.

Here's a 520rwhp GT3. And before anyone says anything this isn't a race motor. This motor has been proven to be reliable for a daily.

Full build of car here:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...ne-ranger.html

"02996ttx50

^ i'd love a gt3 in any configuration. of that i'm sure. but yeah, i'm cheap,... and what i've got is enough.

that said.. i'd LOVE a 3.8 or dare i say.. a 4.0 build lol.

SpeedyD

I was looking at 997.1, 997.2 and 996tt and 997.1tt

Pricing was approximately: 997.1tt>997.2>997.1>=996tt for similar mileage / condition cars.

My thoughts are that the 996tt is best bang for $ and will hold value best overall, though I expect 997.2s to hold value relatively well too.

For me, it came down to chassis characteristics and NA vs turbo engine. I prefer NA motors and liked the .2 997 chassis more than the 996 chassis. Interior preferences / technology were not that critical since there was a pretty decent price gap and I buy for the sporting nature, not the lux.

Downside on 997.2 is exhaust note volume (too quiet for me), but there too it holds its own when comp'd direct to the turbo cars, and it is fixable at relatively low cost.

Just my thoughts after running through a bunch of cars earlier this year.

5ive0

Most I've seen have been between 55 and 65.but if you act quick sometimes you can find I meant garage queen with barely any miles for under 50. Mine was pretty much brand-new condition with 13k miles when I bought it this summer, hadn't even been driven in rain yet. Mechanic said in my post purchase inspection it was the cleanest 996TT he had seen. The point of this besides being to toot my own horn, lol is to say, keep looking and jump on it when you see a deal, I hadn't even driven mine before I shook hands and said I'll take it. A lot of people here will argue that low mileage doesn't necessarily mean low maintenance, but on the other hand it's nice to have something unmolested and as close to new as possible.

breakfast

who wouldnt like a 997 gt3? that wasnt part of the original topic though

though even then many prefer the 996 gt3 feel.

DaveCarrera4

Sure, if you could afford the extra $20,000.

bmwtye

The issue Im running into with helping my dad find a nice 996tt with low miles is just this, not many are priced in the low to mid 40s. They are asking 50-60k which at that point makes him reconsider.

Indiana Jones

Well I test drove a loaded 2012 PDK 4S this week and it is definitely out of the question. I had a moment of clarity, oddly enough, while the car was sideways. Traction control was off, I was driving alone and ehhh...I didn't feel connected with the car. I thought I might be leaning towards a nice new PDK with creature comforts and a warranty, but probably for the wrong reasons. I figured my wife (a lexus driver) and mom could take the car if need be, but this is a purchase I need to make for myself. I'm not a flashy guy, I don't need big horsepower, I need a feel... I want to feel the road coming through the steering wheel...which I did not feel with in the new 997. Unfortunately I am faced with the new issue of 996 TT or 997 TT. I have to test drive a manual and PDK 997 TT now. I feel as though it might behoove me to also test drive a few GT3 boys. The prices and availability of a clean low mileage 996 in Miami aren't looking too great as of now. So back to the drawing board I go. Forgive me if the post isn't perfectly clear...hectic evening.

DaveCarrera4

Drive both then decide. 997.1 TT still has the Mezger motor. Have you browsed the 997tt forum? Less problems, but I'm guessing only because the cars are still newish. I doubt I'd ever get the PDK. Just brought home an 09 Cayman with a manual. So nice.

"02996ttx50

agreed. the "best" imo, of the tt's ( not counting 991t ) is the last of the mezgers ( thats no hype or joke i think..btw..) but that said. the ONLY semi auto to get if one IS a "driver" is the pdk, which pushes one into a 997.2.

first world dilemma indeed.

jumper5836

They did change the cam shaft design on the 997.1tt, not on the 997 GT3 though still has the same old design as the 996GT3/2/tt. The new design is cheaper to produce but results in spun camshafts. Not sure they have a fix for it to prevent it happening after getting it fixed.