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Old 01-16-2015, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC993
Pardon my ignorance but why is obd1 so preferable in CA vs other states? In NJ if you have CEL on you won't pass emissions. Is there something stricter in CA? I understand there are some states that won't check your obd as part of inspection.
I believe some states measure the particles... NJ just takes a peek to see the check engine light isn't on and the system is "ready".

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Old 01-16-2015, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmike
I believe some states measure the particles... NJ just takes a peek to see the check engine light isn't on and the system is "ready".

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For that it should not then matter if you have obd1 or obd2
Old 01-16-2015, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC993
Thanks
I believe the last statement is not entirely true. I read people reseting CEL related to SAI, doing drive cycle and passing emissions before the light comes up again. I guess it depends on how badly the system is clogged up. But it can be cleaned out in most cases.
You are correct. I've heard of people that clear the CEL, set the readiness flags, and pass the emissions test all before the ECU detects the malfunction again.

Assuming you time everything right, you can "stick it to the man" so to speak.
Old 01-16-2015, 09:05 PM
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Louis you mentioned you live in VA. The only counties/cities in the Commonwealth that require smog testing are:

Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, or Stafford

Cities of Alexandria, Fairfax, Falls Church, Manassas or Manassas Park

So if you live outside of those areas as I do, there's no smog testing. As a result, my advice is to be open to all years of 993's-they are all great. As others have mentioned, most of the subtle differences can be changed/removed/defeated-basket handle,immobilizer,etc. Even the Varioram can be retrofitted to a '95. The OBD is one of the few things that can't really be changed (easily).
Old 01-17-2015, 12:27 AM
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All, thank you so much for all those comments it is very good, please keep them coming.

I am currently an happy owner of a 911 3.2 from 87 and and 944 n/a from 88, but the 993 has always been my dream car… so let see if i will jump there and sale my 87.

As the the OBD II issue, if i am correct replacing the valve guides shall solve this major issue, what is more or less the cost of such a repair? So i could factor this in my buying process?

Also i leave in McLean Va.

Louis
Old 01-19-2015, 09:37 PM
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Another factor - upgrading to a RS clutch setup (with a light wheel flywheel ) is a very recommended modification. The 95's do not generally handle this conversion well, with lots of reports of stalling, etc. The 96+ cars have no issues accommodating the lighter flywheel.
Old 01-20-2015, 01:31 AM
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Have you driven a 993? I have an 85 and a 96 and have driven many miles in a 996. The 993 is really is the end of breed. Not saying the water pumper 911's aren't great in many ways, and I know the phrase " driver involvement" is (perhaps) too often used to describe the air-cooled experience, but here it is again...driver involvement. When I first drove a 993 I was amazed at how "old school" it felt. More modern in all areas than your 3.2, but still a pretty raw experience. I think you'll miss your 3.2 but if you're going to miss it for a 993, you couldn't do any better. Cheers
Old 01-20-2015, 10:02 AM
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I have only test drove one last year, that I have almost bought from Porsche in McLean, but the carfax was not clean, so I back up. this was the only one I drove.

But for sure will test drive as much as I can before buying.
Old 01-20-2015, 02:31 PM
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Another small item in favor of the '95: I had to replace my throttle cable last year (the original one "unfrayed" and came apart). I was able to do it with the intake manifolds, pretty much everything, in place.
I don't know how you'd do it on a '96 or later car without at least a partial engine drop.
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Done a disconnect/connect of throttle cable on a 96+ - it's tight but doable.
Old 01-20-2015, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NC TRACKRAT
Here in NC, '95 and back vehicles are only subject to safety inspections, i.e., no OBDII port/computer read-out to DMV. IMHO, the early '95 Carrera is a delightful road car. I could drive it from here to Hell and back and never get tired of it.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Old 01-20-2015, 06:16 PM
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Find the best car regardless of age - they are all sweet and all have their own charms and issues.
Old 01-20-2015, 09:42 PM
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Spyder Man......says....

Additionally, I got 'lucky' and found one without the immobilizer.

What's the bonus of this and how can I tell if my '95 has it or not ? Is it indicated on the option sticker ?

I bought last year and I'm currently expecting to put about $7000 into it to bring it up to my initial spec, then I can drive it to know it and probably spend some more to get it near to where I want it. Unless you are very lucky any newly bought 993 is gonna need some coin spent on it, unless you paid top dollar.
Old 01-20-2015, 09:49 PM
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Buy this one. It looks to be a great drivers car. Very clean for the miles! No affiliation

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...3/1710064.html
Old 01-20-2015, 09:58 PM
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That 993 looks fantastic, makes my buy look a mistake but it is what it is and some of us have to put the good back into the bad.


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