993 Big Red Slotted front rotors...
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They are Girodisks, available from several places, I purchased from Craig, Rennstore. ~$1000 replacements are in the $350 area, the hope is that they will last a lot longer than the oems.
Others are using a much cheaper alternative, Colmans bolted to stock tt hats, preliminary reports are good for these too.
Others are using a much cheaper alternative, Colmans bolted to stock tt hats, preliminary reports are good for these too.
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This is a very interesting thread........ meaning most likely going to cost me more money . Seeing I'm just about to install a full RS brake kit, I have a couple of questions about the Girodiscs.
Bill, when you say "~$1000 replacements are in the $350 area" are you talking about getting a replacement disc and reusing the orig hat. Is that $350 per disc or $350 for 2?
I know these are lighter but can't remember how much, any ideas.
Matt or Bill, have either of you had these on the track?
Tks Guys,
Cheers,
Geoff
Bill, when you say "~$1000 replacements are in the $350 area" are you talking about getting a replacement disc and reusing the orig hat. Is that $350 per disc or $350 for 2?
I know these are lighter but can't remember how much, any ideas.
Matt or Bill, have either of you had these on the track?
Tks Guys,
Cheers,
Geoff
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This is a very interesting thread........ meaning most likely going to cost me more money . Seeing I'm just about to install a full RS brake kit, I have a couple of questions about the Girodiscs.
Bill, when you say "~$1000 replacements are in the $350 area" are you talking about getting a replacement disc and reusing the orig hat. Is that $350 per disc or $350 for 2?
I know these are lighter but can't remember how much, any ideas.
Matt or Bill, have either of you had these on the track?
Tks Guys,
Cheers,
Geoff
Bill, when you say "~$1000 replacements are in the $350 area" are you talking about getting a replacement disc and reusing the orig hat. Is that $350 per disc or $350 for 2?
I know these are lighter but can't remember how much, any ideas.
Matt or Bill, have either of you had these on the track?
Tks Guys,
Cheers,
Geoff
they are only a bit lighter, but that isn't the draw
Guys that track these hard will go through stock tt/RS front rotors every 20 or so days, they crack long before they wear out. I'm hopeing for 40 or more days from these.
ps: how's your project coming?
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Picking my rotors up this weekend - they took longer than expected from the manufacturer. Per Bill's comment, wanted to have them for the end of the track season because my OEMs were cracked >5mm from the holes and getting a little too close for comfort to the outer surface.
2 pounds lighter is nice, but I bought them mainly for longevity and the floating rotor.
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Brembo makes both a 355 and 380 mm X 32 mm floating disc kits using their F50 caliper for the 993. The F50 is almost identical to the big red - the critical dimensions are the same, but it takes a different pad. Looking at the diagrams for the disc, and measuring a Big Red pad, it appears that the pad is 5 mm too tall, but I have been told that the F50 pad is actually taller so should work, but I am not sure and would not try unless I viewed and compared the parts.
Anyway, if Brembo would sell these discs and hats separately from their complete kit all it seems it would take is some spacers under the stock Porsche calipers to use them.
w
Anyway, if Brembo would sell these discs and hats separately from their complete kit all it seems it would take is some spacers under the stock Porsche calipers to use them.
w
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The Brembo rings with Hardware are more expensive than the Giro rings, the last set I bought for another car that were 320mm x 28mm were over $350 each, I would suspect that the 355 or 380 x 32 would be alot more expensive.
You then need to source the hats which is another issue.
You then need to source the hats which is another issue.
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The Brembo rings with Hardware are more expensive than the Giro rings, the last set I bought for another car that were 320mm x 28mm were over $350 each, I would suspect that the 355 or 380 x 32 would be alot more expensive.
You then need to source the hats which is another issue.
You then need to source the hats which is another issue.
However, if the duty cycle for the larger discs were long enough, it might work out in terms of time and money.
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Brembo makes both a 355 and 380 mm X 32 mm floating disc kits using their F50 caliper for the 993. The F50 is almost identical to the big red - the critical dimensions are the same, but it takes a different pad. Looking at the diagrams for the disc, and measuring a Big Red pad, it appears that the pad is 5 mm too tall, but I have been told that the F50 pad is actually taller so should work, but I am not sure and would not try unless I viewed and compared the parts.
Anyway, if Brembo would sell these discs and hats separately from their complete kit all it seems it would take is some spacers under the stock Porsche calipers to use them.
w
Anyway, if Brembo would sell these discs and hats separately from their complete kit all it seems it would take is some spacers under the stock Porsche calipers to use them.
w
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Here is a link to Brembo Caliper "B" & "H" type drawings, compare to a Porsche "Big Red" type caliper and you will find offset, bolt centers, overall length and height identical to Big Red. These are called "F50" calipers by some - I don't know difference in the H & B caliper, drawing is same. Pad different?? http://www.brembo.com/CatalogoHPGT/D...5Cfamily_B.pdf
Brembo 355 X 32 mm disc drawing http://www.brembo.com/CatalogoHPGT/D...0957593545.pdf
Brembo 380 X 32 mm disc drawinghttp://www.brembo.com/CatalogoHPGT/D...0957599899.pdf
Brembo 355 X 32 mm disc drawing http://www.brembo.com/CatalogoHPGT/D...0957593545.pdf
Brembo 380 X 32 mm disc drawinghttp://www.brembo.com/CatalogoHPGT/D...0957599899.pdf