Euro delivery - April 2015
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Gents,
Thank you all for the helpful information and valuable threads. I greatly enjoyed reading everyone's threads from their past ED experiences and looking forward to my own experience. I plan to do about 2k miles of driving in 16 days. How many miles did you guys drive and how long was your ED trip?
Below are some updates:
- ED location: I want to pick up and drop off in stuttgart mainly because the 911 is built there and the whole history of the brand ect.
- Timing: build date is March and I don't want to postpone the build/delivery to the U.S. So unfortunately the trip will have to be in April. I will try to push out a bit but don't want it too late in April since will take another 4-6 weeks shipment going stateside which means dealer delivery will now be well into summer.
- Routes: I will use some of the recommendations here and stay along the coast and spend my last week of the trip in Germany to do castle tours, autobahn and Nurburgring.
Thank you all for the helpful information and valuable threads. I greatly enjoyed reading everyone's threads from their past ED experiences and looking forward to my own experience. I plan to do about 2k miles of driving in 16 days. How many miles did you guys drive and how long was your ED trip?
Below are some updates:
- ED location: I want to pick up and drop off in stuttgart mainly because the 911 is built there and the whole history of the brand ect.
- Timing: build date is March and I don't want to postpone the build/delivery to the U.S. So unfortunately the trip will have to be in April. I will try to push out a bit but don't want it too late in April since will take another 4-6 weeks shipment going stateside which means dealer delivery will now be well into summer.
- Routes: I will use some of the recommendations here and stay along the coast and spend my last week of the trip in Germany to do castle tours, autobahn and Nurburgring.
We flew into Frankfurt and took the train down to Stuttgart. We chose the Steigenbergen Graf Zeppelin as it is a 2 block walk from the train station, right downtown, and a 15 minute taxi ride from the factory. We asked for an early morning delivery (8 am) the following day - did the delivery, the factory tour, had lunch at Christophorus, then jumped in the car at about 1:30 and drove to Innsbruck to enjoy a lovely evening that catered to my wife. We arranged to do the Museum on the day we returned the car. I think if you try to do everything the first day your wife will be on car overload and likely trying to rush you out of the Museum.
First long drive day - Innsbruck to Siena Italy - we made the long days full days on interesting roads with stops for sites and food, not my usual "I hope you find something you like in the gas station" marathon drives. The long first day drive was followed by five days of touring around Tuscany doing historical/sightseeing things that interested my wife (and me).
Second long drive day - Siena Italy to Arles France along the Mediterranean coast, followed by five days of the same.
Third long day drive - Arles France to Strasbourg France, followed by 2 days of the same.
Black Forest twisty tour from Strasbourg to Stuttgart for car return followed by relaxed Museum tour that my wife enjoyed.
We drove every day, but sometimes to go a couple of hundred miles with stops of interest can take all day.
Car arrived on the west coast of Canada before the end of June.
*Spend the $200 for Euro navigation - it is invaluable as it knows its way around ancient cities with pedestrian only zones and can find even the most obscure car parks
**The Michelin Green Guides were really helpful for navigating to sites of interest and finding fun roads
#17
Rennlist Member
Our pickup date was April 23, 2014 and we went with the standard two weeks. Drove 3620 km (approx 2300 miles). Stuttgart weather was cool so we headed south and spent the bulk of the time in Tuscany and Provence. Since you are also going with your wife I'll tell you how I "sold" the concept and she would tell you it was a great trip. Ambling from town to town staying somewhere different every night did not check any boxes for her, so I planned three long driving days and every other day was shorter sightseeing drives radiating from each hub hotel.
We flew into Frankfurt and took the train down to Stuttgart. We chose the Steigenbergen Graf Zeppelin as it is a 2 block walk from the train station, right downtown, and a 15 minute taxi ride from the factory. We asked for an early morning delivery (8 am) the following day - did the delivery, the factory tour, had lunch at Christophorus, then jumped in the car at about 1:30 and drove to Innsbruck to enjoy a lovely evening that catered to my wife. We arranged to do the Museum on the day we returned the car. I think if you try to do everything the first day your wife will be on car overload and likely trying to rush you out of the Museum.
First long drive day - Innsbruck to Siena Italy - we made the long days full days on interesting roads with stops for sites and food, not my usual "I hope you find something you like in the gas station" marathon drives. The long first day drive was followed by five days of touring around Tuscany doing historical/sightseeing things that interested my wife (and me).
Second long drive day - Siena Italy to Arles France along the Mediterranean coast, followed by five days of the same.
Third long day drive - Arles France to Strasbourg France, followed by 2 days of the same.
Black Forest twisty tour from Strasbourg to Stuttgart for car return followed by relaxed Museum tour that my wife enjoyed.
We drove every day, but sometimes to go a couple of hundred miles with stops of interest can take all day.
Car arrived on the west coast of Canada before the end of June.
*Spend the $200 for Euro navigation - it is invaluable as it knows its way around ancient cities with pedestrian only zones and can find even the most obscure car parks
**The Michelin Green Guides were really helpful for navigating to sites of interest and finding fun roads
We flew into Frankfurt and took the train down to Stuttgart. We chose the Steigenbergen Graf Zeppelin as it is a 2 block walk from the train station, right downtown, and a 15 minute taxi ride from the factory. We asked for an early morning delivery (8 am) the following day - did the delivery, the factory tour, had lunch at Christophorus, then jumped in the car at about 1:30 and drove to Innsbruck to enjoy a lovely evening that catered to my wife. We arranged to do the Museum on the day we returned the car. I think if you try to do everything the first day your wife will be on car overload and likely trying to rush you out of the Museum.
First long drive day - Innsbruck to Siena Italy - we made the long days full days on interesting roads with stops for sites and food, not my usual "I hope you find something you like in the gas station" marathon drives. The long first day drive was followed by five days of touring around Tuscany doing historical/sightseeing things that interested my wife (and me).
Second long drive day - Siena Italy to Arles France along the Mediterranean coast, followed by five days of the same.
Third long day drive - Arles France to Strasbourg France, followed by 2 days of the same.
Black Forest twisty tour from Strasbourg to Stuttgart for car return followed by relaxed Museum tour that my wife enjoyed.
We drove every day, but sometimes to go a couple of hundred miles with stops of interest can take all day.
Car arrived on the west coast of Canada before the end of June.
*Spend the $200 for Euro navigation - it is invaluable as it knows its way around ancient cities with pedestrian only zones and can find even the most obscure car parks
**The Michelin Green Guides were really helpful for navigating to sites of interest and finding fun roads
catching the train from FRA makes a LOT of sense, the ICE platform is a short walk from the arrivals terminal, the train is about 1:15 and the Graf Zeppelin is just across the street from the station ... worth reserving seats on diebahn.de
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For clarity for anyone who hasn't done it, the train goes right into FRA, that's why Larry describes it as a short walk.
In our case, after the museum tour we had the factory drop us off at the train station, went back to FRA (there are some good business oriented hotels in the terminal), had dinner and relaxed in the morning before our flight without worry of train delays or anything from Stuttgart on the day of departure.
#19
Certainly don't mean to hijack and I'll start my own thread if more appropriate. But I'm looking now at getting my first 911 (used) after 20+ years of child raising. Sold the first (and last) one when the first child was 2. Euro delivery is a fascinating idea and I've got a landmark birthday coming up in 2 years with my wife already talking about trips we might take to celebrate. I can't imagine a cooler celebration trip than picking up a special order 911, touring the area and having it come home. So my question is can one realistically expect a fair trade in from a dealer on a nice used 911 as part of a Euro-delivery order? Or, stated another way, can I safely buy a 911 now, drive it 18 months and if I love it and want to do the Euro-delivery birthday expect a good trade in on the one I buy now, or should I wait if this is something that I might really want to do?
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Certainly don't mean to hijack and I'll start my own thread if more appropriate. But I'm looking now at getting my first 911 (used) after 20+ years of child raising. Sold the first (and last) one when the first child was 2. Euro delivery is a fascinating idea and I've got a landmark birthday coming up in 2 years with my wife already talking about trips we might take to celebrate. I can't imagine a cooler celebration trip than picking up a special order 911, touring the area and having it come home. So my question is can one realistically expect a fair trade in from a dealer on a nice used 911 as part of a Euro-delivery order? Or, stated another way, can I safely buy a 911 now, drive it 18 months and if I love it and want to do the Euro-delivery birthday expect a good trade in on the one I buy now, or should I wait if this is something that I might really want to do?
You *might* want to make a deal with your dealer giving him the ED business and make the trade-in part of that deal up front ...
#22
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Reserve First Class unless you want to stand - it's a commuter train and it's full. Stood/leaned in the booze car on the way down, relaxed in comfort on the way back.
For clarity for anyone who hasn't done it, the train goes right into FRA, that's why Larry describes it as a short walk.
In our case, after the museum tour we had the factory drop us off at the train station, went back to FRA (there are some good business oriented hotels in the terminal), had dinner and relaxed in the morning before our flight without worry of train delays or anything from Stuttgart on the day of departure.
For clarity for anyone who hasn't done it, the train goes right into FRA, that's why Larry describes it as a short walk.
In our case, after the museum tour we had the factory drop us off at the train station, went back to FRA (there are some good business oriented hotels in the terminal), had dinner and relaxed in the morning before our flight without worry of train delays or anything from Stuttgart on the day of departure.
#23
Burning Brakes
My pickup was late May 2013. My wife and I flew into Munich then took the train to Stuttgart. We had a limited time for this trip so we stayed in Stuttgart and took day trips out from there. The factory tour, collection, and museum stop filled up a whole day (9-5). We took day trips to Baden-Baden, the Black Forest, Rothenburg, Heidelberg. Afterwards we dropped the car off, took the train back to Munich and spent the night there before our flight back to the States. It's a good idea to have a day before your pickup just in case travel arrangements get delayed.
Plenty of details here if you're interested: http://stealthboy.com/porsche.php
Plenty of details here if you're interested: http://stealthboy.com/porsche.php
#24
Larry, Alan or anyone who has experience driving their ED car at Nurburgring. I see on the website that cars with temporary license plate are not allowed at the ring.
My question is will I be able to track my car at the Nurburgring?
Are the license plates that Porsche provides considered a temp plate that is not allowed at the ring?
If this is the case what do I need to do so I can take my car?
Thanks guys.
My question is will I be able to track my car at the Nurburgring?
Are the license plates that Porsche provides considered a temp plate that is not allowed at the ring?
If this is the case what do I need to do so I can take my car?
Thanks guys.
#25
Three Wheelin'
I had no problem with my temporary ED plates.
As an aside, and probably mostly irrelevant, but we did get pulled over on the street outside one of the hotels at the Ring. It was late and the cops were probably bored and decided to do a routine check. Once they saw the papers they sent us on our way.
As an aside, and probably mostly irrelevant, but we did get pulled over on the street outside one of the hotels at the Ring. It was late and the cops were probably bored and decided to do a routine check. Once they saw the papers they sent us on our way.
#26
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Larry, Alan or anyone who has experience driving their ED car at Nurburgring. I see on the website that cars with temporary license plate are not allowed at the ring.
My question is will I be able to track my car at the Nurburgring?
Are the license plates that Porsche provides considered a temp plate that is not allowed at the ring?
If this is the case what do I need to do so I can take my car?
Thanks guys.
My question is will I be able to track my car at the Nurburgring?
Are the license plates that Porsche provides considered a temp plate that is not allowed at the ring?
If this is the case what do I need to do so I can take my car?
Thanks guys.
Others have continued to drive on them since then with no problems, but there is always a nascent conspiracy theory that they are not allowed.
You should have no problems.
#27
My euro delivery itinerary is coming along nicely. I ended up extending my trip to 3 weeks. I'll be traveling to Switzerland, France, Italy and of course spending some time in Germany.
I hear filling up your car at a gas station in some European places may be confusing. Petrol in some areas is gasoline but can also mean diesel and gasoline in some places is actually diesel. I'm curious if this is going to be a task in my travels...
I hear filling up your car at a gas station in some European places may be confusing. Petrol in some areas is gasoline but can also mean diesel and gasoline in some places is actually diesel. I'm curious if this is going to be a task in my travels...
#28
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My euro delivery itinerary is coming along nicely. I ended up extending my trip to 3 weeks. I'll be traveling to Switzerland, France, Italy and of course spending some time in Germany.
I hear filling up your car at a gas station in some European places may be confusing. Petrol in some areas is gasoline but can also mean diesel and gasoline in some places is actually diesel. I'm curious if this is going to be a task in my travels...
I hear filling up your car at a gas station in some European places may be confusing. Petrol in some areas is gasoline but can also mean diesel and gasoline in some places is actually diesel. I'm curious if this is going to be a task in my travels...
Last edited by SDaddy; 02-20-2015 at 10:23 PM.
#29
Drifting
Diesel is more or less an international word so don't worry. It's easy to see the difference. Plus, the diesel nozzle shouldn't fit in the regular petrol/gasoline hole. Have fun!
#30
It's easy to tell - it's harder to judge adequate octane as they use a different measurement - I used the highest available when we did our BMW ED. Diesel says diesel but beware they have super diesel too so make sure to pick super petrol