New ring time for 2017 TTS
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New ring time for 2017 TTS
Wow is the new 17 TTS actually 14 seconds faster than the 15 TTS? Does 20hp mean that much ?
http://blog.caranddriver.com/that-71...-real-sort-of/
http://blog.caranddriver.com/that-71...-real-sort-of/
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Reportedly the engineering head, Erhard Mossle said:
"...we are normally very conservative with times and that time was set on the standard tires, not sports tires.”
No question that R compound tires are faster in dry conditions than P Zeros, but that is not the point in this case. Apparently the higher speed acceleration of the new TTS is much better than the original version of the 991 TTS. Not sure how long the sections of that track are where speed is limited so it will be interesting to learn more. Maybe it is just the 20 extra hp, but more likely it is that in combination with a more aggressively tuned PDK and suspension. Porsche never rests and I am encouraged by the engineers' ability to wring more out of the TTS. For those of us who track, but do not drag race, we can improve our times by fitting R compound tires and more instructed track time than purely by more grunt.
"...we are normally very conservative with times and that time was set on the standard tires, not sports tires.”
No question that R compound tires are faster in dry conditions than P Zeros, but that is not the point in this case. Apparently the higher speed acceleration of the new TTS is much better than the original version of the 991 TTS. Not sure how long the sections of that track are where speed is limited so it will be interesting to learn more. Maybe it is just the 20 extra hp, but more likely it is that in combination with a more aggressively tuned PDK and suspension. Porsche never rests and I am encouraged by the engineers' ability to wring more out of the TTS. For those of us who track, but do not drag race, we can improve our times by fitting R compound tires and more instructed track time than purely by more grunt.
#7
Will be interesting to see a comparison of the 991.2 to the GT3RS. My money will be on the TTS. AWD and higher torque can make up for extra weight and suspension differences. I understand the attraction of the GT3RS, but would bet that a very small percentage of owners ever track their cars. Face it, they are sitting on a very valuable model and do not want miles or worse any damage on their collector's car. Fact is that the TTS, while heavier and not purely track focused in its systems, is a beast on the track that also serves exceptionally well for long trips. In all the reviews, writers dis the TTS for reasons that are apparently due to its lack of fanboy body bits. Regarding the apparent low regard for P Zero's, check out the Chris Harris video comparison of the GT3RS, McLaren 650 and the AM. The McLaren ran faster than the other two on factory fitted P Zero's.
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For around town, PZero's are fine with me. They are not as confidence inspiring when things get more aggressive than that.
#9
I know I'm just talking nonsense but who makes the best tires overall? I remember in the 90's everyone wanted P-Zero's for their new Rims for their new Acura Integra GSR's.
Last edited by The New 911; 01-24-2016 at 02:25 PM.
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Burning Brakes
Not sure that the extra 20 hp is responsible. With all the hoopla about the RS, people forget that the Turbo S IS the flagship vehicle in the 911 line, so it doesn't surprise me that it is the fastest.
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It is not that far of a stretch to have the new 991.2 TTS run a faster lap at 10/10 than say the GT3RS. And again the most important Variable when trying to get the best times out of a car has nothing to do with or what is on the car. It will always be the Driver plain and simple.
Is the Jury still out on IF said lap was "SIMULATED". Does Porsche still have Walter Rohrl on their staff as their World's Ambassador or whatever title they gave him? I say give the keys to him and see what happens. Anyone remember seeing him on
Last edited by The New 911; 01-24-2016 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Did a hell a lot of editing and could probably do more. But I need to get back to my G Code work.