Metal Guru

Here's how it works:
(1) MM sucks you in with the low, low price
(2) MM calls once they have your engine to tell you the price will be more and why
(3) MM takes their sweet time rebuilding your engine
(4) You pick up your car. It is either leaking or burning copious amounts of oil
(5) MM doesn't respond to your complaints
(6) You take your car to a reputable shop. They tear down the MM "rebuild" only to find sub-standard work and that old, out of spec parts that a reputable shop would have scrapped were used to "rebuild" your engine.
(7) You end paying double for a rebuild and lose a year of your life due to stress
So, yes, MM has it down to a science, the science of scam.

Henry964

I came late to this post and I have a few things to say:

First, I am very sorry for your broken engine, it´s the stuff our collective nightmares are made

Second, I wouldn´t spend money on doing a "not so expensive" rebuild, I´d rather have my car parked and wait till I got the money for a proper rebuild job.

I give you an example that will make you think

Our local 964 community is very small, a friend of mine over revved his engine two years ago (doing a time attack trial) he payed for a partial rebuild and didn´t change rod bearings because "they looked fine"
Now his engine is out again to change.... rod bearings.
Big money spent twice is not good at all.

Kahdmus

Metal, really sorry to hear you had a bad experience! How many miles before you had to have your MM rebuild 'rebuilt'?

Kahdmus

Ouch, poor guy, I truly, truly feel for him!

Looks like I might just bring her home and wait to get this figured out...I still feel just nauseous and tired-out, it's like being in a bad dream and not being able to wake-up!

Although I have to say that I do so love rennlisters and the 964 community, you guys make a huge difference and I am genuinely so grateful to be a part of it.

whidbey

+993

sundog

I did my own rebuild from a spun bearing and it still cost a bundle. I didn't add it up, but it was north of 6K, and I didn't replace the pistons. But you have to remove and clean or replace the entire oiling system, which is more than the engine work.

So you will likely need to replace the oil pump ($1000), and have the case cleaned, and the squirters replaced ($500). Crank turned and/or polished.

I would not trust just anybody to do the right thing. I worked with Jerry Woods Enterprises to help me with my rebuild, and they machined my case to fit a gt-3 oil pump for which ended up costing about $500 less than the 964 part, and it pumps better (?)

So, take it for what it is worth, but 6K to rebuild will get you an engine that may work now. But for how long, and what parts were used in putting it back together?

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Given that this is a public forum, I'm not at liberty to post the details of what I've seen, however if you wish to call me sometime, I'd be glad to share my observations.

My best advice is to either have your engine fixed or source a good used one and rebuild that one as needed. In the long run, you will be very pleased with the decisions.

Metal Guru

When I need a rebuild I'll do it myself.
Do a search on Pelicanparts; all the info is there.

velocitylover

Kahdmus,
You have a PM.

J richard

Do not get sucked into the MM vortex of low prices. A local pca friend of mine bought a car with a "fresh" MM rebuild with all receipts, bottom line:he spent more than the purchase price getting a rebuild. it was complete crap.

If it were me, as an example, I'd go to 20th street auto: http://www.20thstreetauto.com/cars/car273/index.htm

90 C2 with a tip so it can't have been overreved, 73k, buy the motor, and have your wrench reseal and install with your peripherals. Bet you could get it for $6k+/-. You'd want to check it out carefully and talk to them but I've been happy with them.

Indycam

He also has a small shop where he does the engine rebuilds . He is in San Jose , I think you should stop by his shop and look around / talk with him .

Makmov

I would likely do my own too.

Marc Shaw

Howard - any updates?

Marc

John Boggiano

Yes, H - how's things? Sent you a message via Facebook a while back.

Ruairidh

Howard - misery loves company. I hadn't seen this before, I am so sorry to hear this and very very much hope that things are looking up.