Nice low miles Linen S4 '89 5 spd fs
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This sounds odd to me. Ask the current owner for a specific description of the cams and what exactly he did to mod the fuel flow to accommodate the cams. Since he did it (at least for fuel flow part), he should be able to tell you precisely what was done. Post the info on this board.
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[QUOTE=Blender77;11882712]Guys,
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but...
I learned:
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- Timing belt and water pump have NEVER been replaced
- - Previous owner installed an upgraded cam (GT cam?) which caused the car to run poorly and ultimately drove him to sell the car. Current owner modded fuel flow to accomadate the cam and car has run perfectly ever since.
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Hard to imagine someone changing camshafts.....and NOT putting on a new timing belt. That would be so weird. I would really wonder what/whose cams got put in it as that may NOT be an upgrade.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but...
I learned:
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- Timing belt and water pump have NEVER been replaced
- - Previous owner installed an upgraded cam (GT cam?) which caused the car to run poorly and ultimately drove him to sell the car. Current owner modded fuel flow to accomadate the cam and car has run perfectly ever since.
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Hard to imagine someone changing camshafts.....and NOT putting on a new timing belt. That would be so weird. I would really wonder what/whose cams got put in it as that may NOT be an upgrade.
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As to price: He's tested the market for a year and it hasn't sold. He can continue to wait, as far as we know. If you have the money but don't think it is worth the ask, you can gamble and wait him out or make an offer. Prices are going up, but to 32? Personally I don't think so, for this car.
If it does have GT or S3 cams (only reasonable guess) would he agree to PPI with dyno to prove it? Shouldn't it have been sharktuned then? Somebody here could propose the numbers it should run. Does the buyer get the original cams?
Love the color.
If it does have GT or S3 cams (only reasonable guess) would he agree to PPI with dyno to prove it? Shouldn't it have been sharktuned then? Somebody here could propose the numbers it should run. Does the buyer get the original cams?
Love the color.
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As to price: He's tested the market for a year and it hasn't sold. He can continue to wait, as far as we know. If you have the money but don't think it is worth the ask, you can gamble and wait him out or make an offer. Prices are going up, but to 32? Personally I don't think so, for this car.
If it does have GT or S3 cams (only reasonable guess) would he agree to PPI with dyno to prove it? Shouldn't it have been sharktuned then? Somebody here could propose the numbers it should run. Does the buyer get the original cams?
Love the color.
If it does have GT or S3 cams (only reasonable guess) would he agree to PPI with dyno to prove it? Shouldn't it have been sharktuned then? Somebody here could propose the numbers it should run. Does the buyer get the original cams?
Love the color.
the fact that the cams were changed and the belt wasn't, is very suspicious too. that's just plain silly.
other than that, sounds like an awesome car.
Unreal that a car this nice goes for 20-30k, but the 911s are going for 60k now. whats up with that huge jump in the older 911s? (84-90s)
I guess the 928 is the Rodney Dangerfield of porsches.
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I hope he gets his number, but...
-- The fact that he claims the motor was tinkered with at all seems amazing to me. The 'swapped cams' and 'modified fuel system' claims actually detract from the car's value. Good news is that they are most likely BS. Might be something the original owner used to bait the buyer, but at this point those claims are hearsay at best. As Jim B says, if it really was apart for cams it would also be apart for the belt. Check the plug wire routing to verify originality of cam cover fitment.
-- A 'gently driven' 34k car still has original front pads and virtually no rotor wear. Visual inspection with a small mirror for wear, pull and look for originality.
Wish it was color-reversed, black with linen interior. Wish it was location-reversed, left coast instead of right. That would make it a better candidate at least for me. Right now it needs to go into a transporter before it gets driven, once it's purchased.
-- The fact that he claims the motor was tinkered with at all seems amazing to me. The 'swapped cams' and 'modified fuel system' claims actually detract from the car's value. Good news is that they are most likely BS. Might be something the original owner used to bait the buyer, but at this point those claims are hearsay at best. As Jim B says, if it really was apart for cams it would also be apart for the belt. Check the plug wire routing to verify originality of cam cover fitment.
-- A 'gently driven' 34k car still has original front pads and virtually no rotor wear. Visual inspection with a small mirror for wear, pull and look for originality.
Wish it was color-reversed, black with linen interior. Wish it was location-reversed, left coast instead of right. That would make it a better candidate at least for me. Right now it needs to go into a transporter before it gets driven, once it's purchased.
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I'd want to see receipts and contact the shop who supplied/fitted the cams to find out what they are and where they came from, and I'd want to know what was done to the fuel system and whether it could be put back to stock easily. The cams may have been a downgrade, depending on what they were (GTS/S3/S4) and whether they were ground/welded (and to what specs).
The warning bells are ringing based on the alleged cams and fuel system modifications.. it adds some big "condition unknown" flags about the engine IMO. The risk is that you might buy the car, and find it needs a bunch of engine work and shop time to make good (or worse, a new engine).
At the least, I'd be cutting open the oil filter as part of the PPI.
The warning bells are ringing based on the alleged cams and fuel system modifications.. it adds some big "condition unknown" flags about the engine IMO. The risk is that you might buy the car, and find it needs a bunch of engine work and shop time to make good (or worse, a new engine).
At the least, I'd be cutting open the oil filter as part of the PPI.
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Are you saying you're in the market for another one, Bob?
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that's stupid that someone thinks that the cam would change things that would make it run different[COLOR="Red"]ly[/COLOR].
I think you are saying it wouldn't make that much difference in a seat of the pants test. And it shouldn't make it run badly.
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It would be interesting, but there are space and time issues that make another one unlikely. Good News is that CC car storage pace here is amazingly cheap, so the "space: the final frontier!" part isn't a show stopper. More likely is a factory TT car, one with AWD. For five months of the year, a Cayenne TT might be the perfect compromise here. Altitude, road conditions, serious lack of traffic relative to previous location, all point to a Cayenne Turbo as the logical choice.
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Here's my linen 1990 with 42k miles, bone stock and perfect cosmetic and mechanical condition. Totally happy but had to pay top dollar to get a perfect linen car.
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wow; that is beautiful. More pics of the inside?