theiceman

the Kendal is pretty good too.

Streetdaddy

Not sure if you like 964's but there's an awesome baby blue one on the "Great American 964 for sale thread "for 58k. Superlow miles. Looks awesome

Bloose993TT

Definitely don't ignore the 84-86 (915) cars if you are looking for the rawer driving experience. They are usually priced 10-15% below comparable G50 cars. If your concerned about collectability a 89 coupe probably will have the biggest upside. When it comes to the market well priced/good cars get swooped up fast. Check bringatrailer.com. Lots of G Series pop up there and they usually fetch top $$$. Take your time and make sure to do a thorough PPI at a Aircooled specialist.

mausone46

As I read it in Total911 about 915 vs G50
buy on condition not on specification

race911

Hmm. How many women 911 owning customers did I have when I was operating shop #1 in the '80s? Even 930s. Maybe it was a Phoenix thing. Or something has been lost with women born in the '80s, versus their mothers born in the '50s.

Even in the '90s, in the wheelhouse of 915 cars showing up as they were priced in affordable $8-15K range, most of the women in our Bay Area track/autocross scene were handling those 915 cars just fine.

So, yeah, magazine and/or internet "journalist" expert who'd probably get his *** handed to him in any era of driving.......

Edward

THIS!

I love my 915 in my 82: it has served me well over the years with extensive track use and continues to do so today. Completely silky and smooth engagements, and zero mods (as in shifter kits or spring gates) other than having been properly rebuilt to stock and setup when I first got her many years ago.

That said, a G50 is a great box, feels more "normal" to our modern driving sensibilities, and I would have no qualms whatever with having a well-sorted 911/G50 as a DD or a weekend fun car. The lighter 915 and its "mystique" are 'nice' and may even make you feel more accomplished (ahem, manly ), but c'mon, nuttin wrong with piloting a proper 911 that doesn't have shift throws resembling a John Deer

Edward

Chris M.

I agree that the G50 doesn't warrant the price differential. I've driven a G50 car extensively and have owned two 915 cars. Almost all PCA stock class Carreras are 915 cars and they perform well through thousands of shifts. A well-adjusted 915 works fine and adding a spring-loaded Wevo/Rennshift makes it even better.

tgil

Just talking to another Porche owner weekend cars and coffee. We agreed the 1984-86 coupe is one of the best values of AC 911s. I sold my 84 Targa and was impressed at the positive difference of the 3.2 vs my 3.0 1980 (which has half the miles of the 84 I sold).

IMHO the G50 premium is overblown but now its too late-the premium is in place and even minimally knowledgeable people know about the G50 thing.
I would take a 3.2 all day long based on my 2 year ownership of a stock 3.2 1984, especially at the current pricing.

911Dave

I would point out that the 87-89 cars also have a 10 hp advantage over the 84-86 cars. 217 bhp instead of 207, due to a remapped stock chip. So it's not just the transmission and hydraulic clutch that account for the greater desirabiity.

mrgreenjeans

And it seems a bit easier for those looking, the '87-'89 cars have a bit more likely- hood to be seen with full leather interiors...... the full leather seats front and rear, headliner and door cards, and the dash.
Even tho there was less of them made, there appears to be a few more of these special trimmed cars around per volume produced, making a somewhat more desirable sports car even more unique.

But if so equipped, make sure and keep that dash Lexol replenished and a white towel at the ready to throw up on it when parked, because it doesn't take much for those dashes to look like a pair of well worn work boots used on a few hikes or trail rides.

Warped, curled, and losing it's look ~

tgil

Good additional points about the 87-89s, and if you have the money for the premium price it will probably appreciates more % wise (if that matters to you) and also be a great 911 to drive.

r911

just kill those fugly bumpers on them

flatman

I have been 'shopping' for a car in this year range for a while and have a few opinions on price. To me, its a buyer's market - there is a softness at this moment and places like Schmidt are wildly overpriced compared real sales especially from private parties. Many of the dealers are sitting on inventory they actually bought at higher prices with the expectation that prices would continue to rise indefinitely. Private owners are finding fewer offers when using Hagerty valuations. I know this because I have been haggling for the last several months. Check out the ebay auctions and see how few of these cars are selling. Hemmings has over 1000 porsches listed. The PCA marketplace has over 400. Of course many are not 3.2's but .... So here's what I find - Coupes cost more, next Targas, then Cabs, G cars cost more especially coupes, 964's are a relative value at this moment. The big question I had to address was whether I wanted a 'vintage' or more modern car. If you want modern convenience or decent AC buy a 964. If you are into vintage realize that at this moment you will pay a premium for a G50 car. I just saw a black 85 coupe from the side and it was the best looking car I have seen in a while but that your choice. FYI, A dealer whose name I won't mention but who always has very nice cars that were overpriced for the miles just put up an 80 SC Coupe with 90K miles under $25K - that is a car priced to sell! He had a 83 Cab that sold very quickly at $29K - again a decent price.

Chris M.

True and your comments about the G50 cars appreciating more are also true. The problem is that as the 3.2 cars continue to appreciate it becomes more risky to drive them. One reportable accident and it's worthless and I'm not one for owning it and just having it sit in the garage. I want to drive it and this is one reason I'm considering letting mine go.

mausone46

Some fact about 3,2 in Europe
When I was in search for a 3,2 I do not payd attention to the G50 gearbox, but to a 930-20 model
with the 231 Hp engine with high compression rate and without cat
this is for many enthusiastic here in Germany more important than a G 50 and 217 cat engine
while my car is not a garage queen I can enjoy it very frequently and not think about valuation or so