Notices
911 Forum 1964-1989
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Intercity Lines, LLC

Rear Main Seal Battle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-27-2014, 08:10 AM
  #1  
Pjd131
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Pjd131's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Rear Main Seal Battle

While doing my clutch, I decide to replace the rear main seal as there appeared to be a leak. Here are the pics of the removal. On the last image, you can see a small mark where the drill bit hit. I don't think this will be an issue given how the seal sits, but anyone think otherwise? And if so, what to do? Thanks, Paul

You can see lots of failed attempts with self tapping metal screws. A few broke and a few ripped out before I got one that worked. Very nerve racking.



Here, I finally get the movement that I was hoping for.



And here is the seal out. There are a couple burrs in the front of the cutout area that I will polish away, but I am most concerned about the drill bit indent at the 1 o-clock below the cutout. Any thoughts.

Old 11-28-2014, 08:21 PM
  #2  
User 4221
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
User 4221's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,031
Received 47 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

On a job like this I usually heat up the seal to help with removal. from what you've shown, you should be OK but I would use some Curil-T on the seal as a backup measure.
Old 11-28-2014, 08:54 PM
  #3  
Amber Gramps
Addict
 
Amber Gramps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Alta Loma Alone
Posts: 37,770
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

It looks great. You don't want to know what I have gotten away with on lesser cars over the years. I have had cam bearings with massive pits and gashes in them and lobes with pitting and the machine shop guy always says run 'em.

The seal wiper runs on the crank, not on the case.
Old 11-28-2014, 11:21 PM
  #4  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,522
Received 80 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

That indent will have no effect, as that isnt the sealing surface. I've never had a seal that tough to pull. You can also come in with a punch from the side at the notch, and get a hook behind to lever it out.

I'd be more concerned with the nicks at the notch. You want to make sure they are dressed, so they don't scratch the seal on the outside.

Last edited by Ed Hughes; 12-01-2014 at 06:37 PM.
Old 11-29-2014, 08:07 AM
  #5  
Pjd131
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Pjd131's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the input here guys. I will take care of those blemishes on the notch and set the new seal this weekend. Pretty nerve wracking experience with that many failed attempts. Makes we wonder if I erred in pulling it, but I don't have much time for second guessing. More to learn and do... and my wife needs her garage spot back by January (we'll see).

Paul
Old 12-01-2014, 05:09 PM
  #6  
TT Oversteer
Racer
 
TT Oversteer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

A sharp object to grab the seal at the notch aids in removal. Don't sweat the tiny drill mark; it won't affect sealing. I'm pretty sure the seal isn't actually supposed to even bottom out against the surface that you drilled into. I believe you install the seal flush with the outer surface of the engine case rather than bottoming it out. Good advice about cleaning up any burrs before installing the new seal. I would install the new seal dry and avoid curil or any other sealant which could cause the seal to walk outward before the sealant cures. There is a good thread over on Pelican on engine sealing including the rear main seal:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-e...nt-thread.html
Old 12-01-2014, 06:38 PM
  #7  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,522
Received 80 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

I use a thin skim of oil on outer surface.
Old 12-01-2014, 09:39 PM
  #8  
Pjd131
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Pjd131's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Got new one in with 4" pvc & 2x4 and the odd tap from rubber mallet. Am still waiting for Curil-T from supplier so put it in with a little oil.

Old 12-01-2014, 11:19 PM
  #9  
User 4221
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
User 4221's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 7,031
Received 47 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Looks good.



Quick Reply: Rear Main Seal Battle



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:35 PM.