California Porsche Restoration opinion wanted
#16
Sounds like a good place to have a special car restored. Depending on the price, if I were looking for an SC 911, I would also see what was available in an original car. I think I would also be looking at Carreras in California, as they run stronger in stock form, and may be in the price range of a nice restored SC.
Keep us posted Richard. Sounds like you are on the hunt.
Keep us posted Richard. Sounds like you are on the hunt.
#17
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I stumbled upon this place today. Wow, what a shop. They occupy several buildings each dedicated to a different task. A gentleman named Heinz gave me the grand tour. I asked him if they also do reproductions as there was 8 or so 356 tubs just outside the paint building. He walked me over and insisted I inspect each and every one to see that they were indeed original Porsches. Stunning collection of cars and unreal work going on. He said a full restoration costs about $65,000 and the have enough cars in storage awaiting restoration to keep themselves busy for the next several years.
#18
I haddah Google dat
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I have never met the man or visited CPR. A good friend of mine has bought 2 cars & sold 1 there + has 1more (a 356 Roadster, red) for sale there now. This guy is in the machine tool biz, German native, has owned 30-40 Porsches. Needless to say, he is very experienced, has very high standards & won't waste time or $$$.
I checked out his '73 S that has returned from CA, am very impressed with the level of restoration. It was like a new one from back-in-the-day; tight (down to door latches & headliner), correct parts & materials, very smooth driving, no untoward noises, balanced handling (some upgrades there) & very strong performing. Paint was show-quality, gaps were same (one minor adjustment to decklid), detailing was complete (inc underside). There were a coupla minor interior items that required attention + one electrical fault - Brian handled everything professionally & to the owner's satisfaction. I was also impressed with Brian's availability for communications & his focus on making his customer happy. I understand he has recently moved into bigger, better facilities.
My take (so far) is that he is in the "middle of the bell curve" in terms of market prices on the cars he has, Bullfighter's comments apropro; "His quotes seemed reasonable if you're looking to have a great early 911 to enjoy, but you're probably not going to re-sell the car for a profit anytime soon." - especially these days. So, this car is a great keeper, can be further detailed to kingdom-come for competitive concours or (better yet) - driving!
& don't overlook a PPI if you aren't an expert (& maybe even if you are - 2nd set of eyes might save ya a 2nd mortgage... or a divorce).
I checked out his '73 S that has returned from CA, am very impressed with the level of restoration. It was like a new one from back-in-the-day; tight (down to door latches & headliner), correct parts & materials, very smooth driving, no untoward noises, balanced handling (some upgrades there) & very strong performing. Paint was show-quality, gaps were same (one minor adjustment to decklid), detailing was complete (inc underside). There were a coupla minor interior items that required attention + one electrical fault - Brian handled everything professionally & to the owner's satisfaction. I was also impressed with Brian's availability for communications & his focus on making his customer happy. I understand he has recently moved into bigger, better facilities.
My take (so far) is that he is in the "middle of the bell curve" in terms of market prices on the cars he has, Bullfighter's comments apropro; "His quotes seemed reasonable if you're looking to have a great early 911 to enjoy, but you're probably not going to re-sell the car for a profit anytime soon." - especially these days. So, this car is a great keeper, can be further detailed to kingdom-come for competitive concours or (better yet) - driving!
& don't overlook a PPI if you aren't an expert (& maybe even if you are - 2nd set of eyes might save ya a 2nd mortgage... or a divorce).
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#22
I haddah Google dat
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Wow, jeez! An early "S" (are those Lockheed or Girling?), a 914-6, a Speedster, and what might be an early "B" 356. This is all at one shop, all at the same time.
I wonder what that red coupe is?
I wonder what that red coupe is?
#24
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I had a 72 T done there a couple of years ago, and visited the shop 3 times during the process, any one intrested having work done and would like to chat about it, PM me.
#25
On CPR: I just had a dreadful experience with CPR & the owner Brian Doherty. Basically, back in January 2011, I put down a 60% deposit on a 1964 356SC that was "TWO WEEKS" from completion. After almost seven months of promises he comeS up with some ridiculous excuses to return my deposit with 4% interest! I think he realized that he can sell it for more than our agreed price and unilaterally has cancelled our deal I found him to be untrustworthy and very unprofessional. Be very careful with them if they asks you to put deposit down on an unfinished car.
#26
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On CPR: I just had a dreadful experience with CPR & the owner Brian Doherty. Basically, back in January 2011, I put down a 60% deposit on a 1964 356SC that was "TWO WEEKS" from completion. After almost seven months of promises he comeS up with some ridiculous excuses to return my deposit with 4% interest! I think he realized that he can sell it for more than our agreed price and unilaterally has cancelled our deal I found him to be untrustworthy and very unprofessional. Be very careful with them if they asks you to put deposit down on an unfinished car.
You MAY have a gripe, but I don't think it counts. On top of that, it is one side of the situation.
#27
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On CPR: I just had a dreadful experience with CPR & the owner Brian Doherty. Basically, back in January 2011, I put down a 60% deposit on a 1964 356SC that was "TWO WEEKS" from completion. After almost seven months of promises he comeS up with some ridiculous excuses to return my deposit with 4% interest! I think he realized that he can sell it for more than our agreed price and unilaterally has cancelled our deal I found him to be untrustworthy and very unprofessional. Be very careful with them if they asks you to put deposit down on an unfinished car.
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#30
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Nothing says RL is the be-all to the Porsche community, but many enthusiasts are here to share, learn or teach. This guy simply stopped by to trash.