help identify these wheels!?!?
 

right I apologise in advance for these being on a VW but I am one of those sinners haha. I got these from a mate and we have both searched all over and only ever found 1 other set of these wheels with not much said about them.
I have found the 18 inch versions made by speedline and kinesis and also a couple of 17inch ones bit not face mounted ones in this spec.


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These are factory face mounted and cant be put any other way due to the shape of the face(the dish just doesn't sit on right and the bolt holes are deep so the bolts sit flush). the specs are 17x7.5 et52 and rears 9 et58 I think.
they are stamped made in Italy which I am thinking would make them speedlines, but as I say I just cant find them in the same spec and face mounted.
I will get better pictures at some point today if needed.
any help is very very appreciated guy thanks Swinburn

just found something on here about the bolts they are 6 pint but have a dimple in them not sl stamped on them