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WTB: 911R *private party only please*

Old 09-03-2018, 01:11 PM
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Year: 2016
Make: Porsche
Model: 911
Cont. Porsche Models: 911
Mileage (numbers only please): 1000
Color: Any
Price (no $ sign please): $300000
Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing
Location (Region): NorthEast
Body Style: Coupe
Transmission Type: Manual - 4 speed
2 or 4 Wheel Drive?: 2 Wheel Drive
Engine Type: Fuel Injection
Stereo System: AM Radio

Originally Posted by b12badbrad View Post
I think these cars will easily come down below 300k with the GT3T's available with manuals. There just isn't enough of a difference to justify the prices.
I was with a friend of mine in Monterey last week who is dealing in these cars often, he is convinced they will eventually come down to sticker. When I asked about his reasoning he said the same, there is not enough differences to justify the current spread. I also think they will surely came down below 300m not sure about sticker, I guess will see.
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:25 PM
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Don't know where the 306k came from. The money handed over was 379k. These cars are not GT3 tourings. You will not be able to buy another R from the factory. Simple.
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:34 PM
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Disheartening that Porsche is capable of building a better 'driver's car' than 911R by combining/improving upon 911R/GT3... but didn't. They held back with GT3 Touring (which is dumb name BTW).

I hope that the GT3 Touring is not the sendoff of N/A manual combo. If so, it should move much closer in value to 911R over time.

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Old 09-03-2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
Disheartening that Porsche is capable of building a better 'driver's car' than 911R by combining/improving upon 911R/GT3... but didn't. They held back with GT3 Touring (which is dumb name BTW).

I hope that the GT3 Touring is not the sendoff of N/A manual combo. If so, it should move much closer in value to 911R over time.
It's not. Speedster/gt3 cab on its way at a minimum.
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Old 09-03-2018, 06:45 PM
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If the R seller didn't have a reserve which he did he could have had to pay sellers commission at 8%. Most deals have a reserve which eliminates that downside to the seller. He could have netted 340's approx. Still the car brought 379 and that is what someone was willing to pay for a well optioned delivery mile R. just sayin!
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Old 09-03-2018, 06:54 PM
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Here's my 2¢....
I've dabbled in buying, selling and have thoroughly enjoyed driving many, many Porsche cars over the past 40 years. I've seen markets raise and fall repeatedly after the introduction and fermentation period (after five years) of each model. I've also witnessed Porsche lying to it's customers twice with regards to the 911 Speedster and now, a fourth edition is about to be released. Perhaps the 911R is a different animal, but if history repeats itself, we may see another 911R. I do however have a friend who is a close friend of Andy Preuninger, and Mr. P has assured my friend that Porsche will never make another 911R. Never say Never...right?

I'm pretty confident that a good percentage of Rennlisters would buy a 911R if they fell back to MSRP, but unfortunately they won't. As soon as the cars start selling under $250K, the demand will start to grow and prices will either stabilize in or around this price, or perhaps start to increase again. As I previously mentioned, WHITE...SILVER and BLACK are fairly common. PTS cars will always bring a premium as they do in other models. I highly doubt you'll ever find a PTS 911R for under $325K. Unless of coarse, they start making the 911R again, and then all hell will break loose. Have you noticed the prices of the 997 Speedster are now coming back down to reality since the introduction of the 991.2 Speedster???

Originally Posted by 2016 gt3 View Post
I was with a friend of mine in Monterey last week who is dealing in these cars often, he is convinced they will eventually come down to sticker. When I asked about his reasoning he said the same, there is not enough differences to justify the current spread. I also think they will surely came down below 300m not sure about sticker, I guess will see.
Originally Posted by crazyed View Post
Don't know where the 306k came from. The money handed over was 379k. These cars are not GT3 tourings. You will not be able to buy another R from the factory. Simple.







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Old 09-03-2018, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kecho View Post
WHITE...SILVER and BLACK are fairly common. PTS cars will always bring a premium as they do in other models. I highly doubt you'll ever find a PTS 911R for under $325K.
Have to agree.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:54 PM
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Well....until we see clear under $300K market....let's seat and wait...
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:29 PM
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The $379k included the buyers premium...

The sellers take home was closer to... $310k or $315k depending on the deal he cut with RM Auctions"
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Old 09-04-2018, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SBCARGUY View Post
The $379k included the buyers premium...

The sellers take home was closer to... $310k or $315k depending on the deal he cut with RM Auctions"
true there is no doubt they are coming. down stay tuned!!!
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Old 09-04-2018, 01:05 AM
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I don't think its moving much from here. Its corrected quite a bit our the past year. Its a numbered car, its stick, and with the LWFW its a hoot to drive.

Agreed the new motor is better but most of us can't extract 80% of what these cars are capable of.

This car has caused more discussion over price than any other car in my 12 years on Rennlist.

To the OP...much respect for your financial discipline.
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:16 AM
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I have been looking also. I drove one with a single mass fly wheel and one with a dual mass fly wheel. I liked the single mass better for some reason. I thought I read the single mass FW was supposed to be harder to drive? What is the difference in driving dynamics? Atlantis motors has one he will take $300k for but it’s a Canadian car with DMFW and 18 way seats.
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Old 09-04-2018, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgemaser View Post
I have been looking also. I drove one with a single mass fly wheel and one with a dual mass fly wheel. I liked the single mass better for some reason. I thought I read the single mass FW was supposed to be harder to drive? What is the difference in driving dynamics? Atlantis motors has one he will take $300k for but it’s a Canadian car with DMFW and 18 way seats.
That horribly specced car should trade closer to MSRP, no one will pay $300k for it.
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Per our resident dealer/fast driver CJ Wilson.

Dual mass is easier in traffic and makes less noise. Harder to stall.

Single is rattly and easier to stall but easier to rev match on track.
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe View Post
They held back with GT3 Touring (which is dumb name BTW).
Lol true. It was between that and GT3 Boulevard Cruiser, but GT3 touring fit better on the grill ornament.
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