Best Rig to Haul 2 Cars + Living
03-21-2018, 05:44 PM
#16
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Yes, license classes (unless excluded by an exception in some states for RVs) is determined solely by weight rating, not length or actual weight.
03-25-2018, 02:10 PM
#17
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I'm going through this now and been running the traps for awhile. The RV + stacker is definitely the way to go, unless you're bringing full shop support with you. FYI, no CDL needed under 65 feet in Cali.
I've basically settled on a 36 foot RV diesel pusher + 24 foot stacker (+4 foot tongue), which puts me at a just Cali legal 64 feet (plus a 22' trailer to move the cars around town) . The 24 foot trailer is good for full workbench and tools, generator and compressor plus 2 extra sets of wheels. Tight, but very manageable once the cars are unloaded.
The biggest issue is finding the diesel pusher at 36 feet. The added cost for the smaller vehicle compared to large (40'+) is outrageous. You'll also need to have a rig shop weld supports for the hitch/load in order to tow a stacker (not a big deal).
I've basically settled on a 36 foot RV diesel pusher + 24 foot stacker (+4 foot tongue), which puts me at a just Cali legal 64 feet (plus a 22' trailer to move the cars around town) . The 24 foot trailer is good for full workbench and tools, generator and compressor plus 2 extra sets of wheels. Tight, but very manageable once the cars are unloaded.
The biggest issue is finding the diesel pusher at 36 feet. The added cost for the smaller vehicle compared to large (40'+) is outrageous. You'll also need to have a rig shop weld supports for the hitch/load in order to tow a stacker (not a big deal).
We didn't sleep in our so no water, no waste. Trailer had tools, tech cart, taylor, dunn, 1 cayman, awnings, some spares, but no spare engine and no spare trans.
The toters and their trailers are not rated for that kind of weight.
Any trailer that is rated over 10k a CDL is required empty or full. That is fed law which is enforced in california. If you had the non commercial CDL, you'd probably be ok but we own a trucking company and deal with the CHP daily. Got some great advice from them. Plus the CHP does enforcement stops at some major race events and has been known to make the out of staters that are 70 to 80 feet long park, and break them apart to go into the track. As well as cite the non cdl drivers towing a trailer over 10k without the right endorsements
Not worth the headache.
A gooseneck trailer de-rated to 15k works. You can get a gooseneck enforcement on your regular license and that would keep you legal.
A nice ford f450 is a perfect tow rig, but we are a GM fleet so their dually (which is 10k cheaper) with air bags and a good set of michelin LTX 10 or 12 ply gets it done perfectly.
03-29-2018, 09:05 PM
#18
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Here is the other thing, our optima toter and optima triple axle stacker trailer weighed 70,000 lbs loaded. We didn't have that much in it.
We didn't sleep in our so no water, no waste. Trailer had tools, tech cart, taylor, dunn, 1 cayman, awnings, some spares, but no spare engine and no spare trans.
The toters and their trailers are not rated for that kind of weight.
Any trailer that is rated over 10k a CDL is required empty or full. That is fed law which is enforced in california. If you had the non commercial CDL, you'd probably be ok but we own a trucking company and deal with the CHP daily. Got some great advice from them. Plus the CHP does enforcement stops at some major race events and has been known to make the out of staters that are 70 to 80 feet long park, and break them apart to go into the track. As well as cite the non cdl drivers towing a trailer over 10k without the right endorsements
Not worth the headache.
A gooseneck trailer de-rated to 15k works. You can get a gooseneck enforcement on your regular license and that would keep you legal.
A nice ford f450 is a perfect tow rig, but we are a GM fleet so their dually (which is 10k cheaper) with air bags and a good set of michelin LTX 10 or 12 ply gets it done perfectly.
We didn't sleep in our so no water, no waste. Trailer had tools, tech cart, taylor, dunn, 1 cayman, awnings, some spares, but no spare engine and no spare trans.
The toters and their trailers are not rated for that kind of weight.
Any trailer that is rated over 10k a CDL is required empty or full. That is fed law which is enforced in california. If you had the non commercial CDL, you'd probably be ok but we own a trucking company and deal with the CHP daily. Got some great advice from them. Plus the CHP does enforcement stops at some major race events and has been known to make the out of staters that are 70 to 80 feet long park, and break them apart to go into the track. As well as cite the non cdl drivers towing a trailer over 10k without the right endorsements
Not worth the headache.
A gooseneck trailer de-rated to 15k works. You can get a gooseneck enforcement on your regular license and that would keep you legal.
A nice ford f450 is a perfect tow rig, but we are a GM fleet so their dually (which is 10k cheaper) with air bags and a good set of michelin LTX 10 or 12 ply gets it done perfectly.
Checked with my guy and you are correct. To a tow a stacker you need a noncommercial recreational drivers license, but definitely do not need a CDL (when towing with an RV). Class C is fine if towing anything at or below 10,000 GVWR
03-29-2018, 11:37 PM
#19
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Best rig
Matt,
Thanks for the truck ****. Why are trucks like this so reasonable compared to regular trucks? Even Sal likes that truck!
Buzz
Thanks for the truck ****. Why are trucks like this so reasonable compared to regular trucks? Even Sal likes that truck!
Buzz