Car and Driver places the Taycan Turbo S and Model S P against each other. And though C&D gave the Tesla first place. Surprisingly (with that decision), here's what they said concerning range:

The bolded part, has been what I been looking for, expecting. Of course, there's more data to compile. But that's what C&D has found so far. They also indicate the Taycan was faster as well (and certainly repeatable), while I'm still reading the article.

And here's what they said about the other much discussed topic, Acceleration:In it's quick hits, CD said:
Highs: Arresting looks, time-warping acceleration, range is a nonissue.
Lows: Lacking in storage and rear-seat space, all-the-money price.
Verdict: Porsche creates the Porsche of EVs, applies Porsche pricing.

For the Model S:
Highs: Spacious and airy, still megaquick, one-pedal driving.
Lows: Dull handling, feels its size and weight.
Verdict: Eight years in, the Model S continues to impress.[/QUOTE]

It appears, the Model S won the comparison due to (mainly it's price) and it's recent improvements cited by C&D. This can be parsed; argued and discussed however. Feel free. Nonetheless, it's still slower, while range is negligible according to C&D. These were the two biggest contentions raised here and elsewhere, and it was with the current Latest Greatest Model S.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s-performance/

 

 

This deserves repeating after all the hullabaloo here and elsewhere (yes, "I Wanna Be Starting Sumtin like MJ ):

Just read that entire sentence. It says it all.

So the Porsche accelerates simpler and faster, while achieving similar Real world range with better handling and a more compliant ride. Sounds, like "superior" technology to me which some would pay additional $$ for.

And the Range Test, was done a 6.5 mile oval for 100 miles at 75 mph (thanks TopSpeedPT). So, both cars were subjected to the exact same route and testing, finally!!

Case closed (at least at this interval) for the Taycan being inferior to the Tesla, Model S!!

Once again, cars (or their performance; operation; races or Range) aren't driven, proven or won on a stat sheet. It happens in the real world in real time.

 

So for the range anxious crowd the 83 KWH usable battery equipped Taycan Turbo S on the 21 inch wheels with summer rubber gets within 13 miles of the 96 KWH usable battery Tesla Model S Raven....so who is more efficient in this test?
2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S

VEHICLE TYPE
front- and rear-motor, all-wheel-drive, 4- or 5-passenger, 4-door sedan

PRICE AS TESTED
$205,180 (base price: $186,350)

MOTORS
2 permanent-magnet synchronous AC, 255 and 449 hp, 325 and 450 lb-ft; combined output, 750 hp, 774 lb-ft; 93.4-kWh lithium-ion battery pack

TRANSMISSION
1-speed direct drive (front), 2-speed automatic (rear)

CHASSIS
Suspension (F/R): control arms/multilink
Brakes (F/R): 16.5-in vented, cross-drilled ceramic disc/16.1-in vented, cross-drilled ceramic disc
Tires: Pirelli P Zero PZ4 Elect, F: 265/35ZR-21 101Y NF0 R: 305/30ZR-21 104Y NF0

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 114.2 in
Length: 195.4 in
Width: 77.4 in
Height: 54.3 in
Passenger volume: 88 ft3
Cargo volume: 16 ft3
Curb weight: 5246 lb

C/D
TEST RESULTS
Rollout, 1 ft: 0.2 sec
60 mph: 2.4 sec
100 mph: 6.0 sec
130 mph: 10.5 sec
150 mph: 15.2 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 2.9 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 1.1 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 1.6 sec
¼-mile: 10.5 sec @ 130 mph
Top speed (mfr's claim): 162 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 155 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 306 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.99 g

C/D
FUEL ECONOMY
300-mi trip: 70 MPGe

EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/city/highway: 68/67/68 MPGe
Range: 192 miles

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2020 Tesla Model S Performance

VEHICLE TYPE
front- and rear-motor, all-wheel-drive, 4- or 5-passenger, 4-door sedan

PRICE AS TESTED
$114,690 (base price: $101,190)

MOTORS
1 permanent-magnet synchronous AC, 1 AC induction, 275 and 503 hp, 310 and 531 lb-ft; combined output, 778 hp, 841 lb-ft; 98.0-kWh lithium-ion battery pack

TRANSMISSION
1-speed direct drive (front), 1-speed direct drive (rear)

CHASSIS
Suspension (F/R): multilink/multilink
Brakes (F/R): 14.0-in vented disc/14.4-in vented disc
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, F: 245/35ZR-21 96Y TO R: 265/35ZR-21 101Y TO

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 116.5 in
Length: 195.7 in
Width: 77.3 in
Height: 56.9 in
Passenger volume: 95 ft3
Cargo volume: 28 ft3
Curb weight: 5003 lb

C/D
TEST RESULTS
Rollout, 1 ft: 0.2 sec
60 mph: 2.5 sec
100 mph: 6.4 sec
130 mph: 11.9 sec
150 mph: 18.5 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 2.8 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 1.1 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 1.6 sec
¼-mile: 10.7 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (mfr's claim): 163 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 156 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 313 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.92 g

C/D
FUEL ECONOMY
300-mi trip: 70 MPGe

EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/city/highway: 97/98/96 MPGe
Range: 326 miles


This was fascinating as well to see how dramatically the Tesla's performance went off a cliff almost instantly....not even close to the Taycan after only 3 launches. The 0-130 and 0-150 mph times shows the much better efficiency of the Taycan's 2 speed transmission and aero as well. Yes it costs more for the Porsche which is why it is in second place but it wins the test in virtual every performance metric.

 

C&D also said the call on number one may have been reversed if the comparison was 4S versus Model S performance, despite the 4S slower speed. In the point score for the win, the Tesla won by 13 points, the point difference for price was 16 points. Strangely, for the Rebates/Incentives they gave the Tesla one point and the Taycan zero. That I don't understand since the Tesla is no longer eligible for the Federal tax credit, but the Taycan is eligible for the full $7500 tax credit (admittedly not a big issue at an as tested price for the Turbo S of $205,180, but more relevant for a $138,00 4S like I have ordered).

So, I am feeling great about my 4S order.

 

I agree. And I think it gives the Tesla acolytes something to carry home, otherwise they'd be Up In Arms over the abject annihilation.

However, if you look at all the reasonable criteria (ride; interior; handling; acceleration; charging speed, etc.). The Taycan slapped around the Model P Raven like it's little brother. So, if they want to cite the Porsche Tax price of entry. That's okay. Cause, I think people can interpret for themselves what car would be for them. And that's fine to IMHO. To each his own as they say.

Nonetheless, I do agree with you. How could the Porsche do all that, and have similar range, but not win due to price (along with maybe a back seat or a trunk). What are you looking for, using the two cars for at this price point , actually?

 

Here's the MONEY QUOTE on the Taycan (2nd paragraph) for those who don't have time to read the article or gaggle of comments yet:

Nuff Said!

Interesting to see the Turbo and 4S in the same comparison with their lower price point (and assumed/presumed slightly slower INITIAL acceleration) and C&D's mode of thinking, since they're essentially the same car minus omissions and tweaks to the battery and software?

Funny. Elon's got his Franken-Tesla thing coming up with Motor Trend we hear. However, C&D beat him to the punch already with the Latest Greatest current Tesla. So, no one's gonna really care with a car they can't buy, and know very little about (accept the true believers, Flat Earth Brigade).

I see you Car and Driver! LOL

 

I think this statement is the most positive analysis of the comparison.
"More surprisingly, the Porsche held its own in our 75-mph range test. While the EPA says there's a 134-mile difference in the range between the two, extrapolating from our 100-mile run, the real-world difference amounts to 10 miles in the Tesla's favor."
People can try and deflect the test skewed in Porsche's favor since high speed efficiency would tend to give Porsche an advantage with it's better aero and 2 speed transmission. But where range really matters is long distance interstate travel. This means going 75 mph for hours at a time. Bopping around town at 45 is meaningless since you've probably not ventured too far from home nor overnight. 200 mile range for local driving is plenty.
This shows that in the real world, the Porsche is just as good a long distance EV as the Tesla. This doesn't take into account the charging infrastructure, just the mechanics of the vehicles.
Good job Porsche.

 

You might want to go back and read that sentence again, because it says exactly the opposite of what you wrote:

"Some spreadsheet fiddling suggests that the finishing order wouldn't have changed had we pitted the Tesla against the far slower $105,150 Taycan 4S."

 

I'm actually shocked that the Tesla bested the Taycan in the rolling start 5-60 (by 0.1 sec). I have not spent time in a P100D but I was under the impression that the acceleration was substantially slower when not using Ludicrous launch mode. Can you drive the Tesla around in Ludicrous mode and retain that same performance level, eg, accelerating from say a steady state 60?

 

Yes, my mistake. I’ll still take my ordered 4S over the Tesla. With Federal tax rebate the price delta is about $15K.

 

Well, they still have Fart Mode and the yellowing screen feature, so they still have those things that they seem to value

When oh when will Porsche have Fart mode?

 

this is good news - more confirmation that EPA range is a statistical anomaly…I see nothing but goodness in this report.

 

My one issue to pick is benchmarking against the model S, which is 8 years old and 5000# instead of the model 3 performance which an entire generation better EV tech, repeatable performance, and 900# lighter. I’d still give the nod to the taycan, but I think it’s a mistake to set the bar for Porsche lower.

But damn, look at those times through the 1/4 mile. Taycan is a ****ing land missile.

 

200k car vs 100k car. Brand new car is relatively old car. I have 2017 model X (family) and recently got Model 3P. Model S wasn’t even on my radar, it’s a good car, crazy fast. But I prefer model 3 in almost every way. I drove the Taycan I would take it over Model S for the same money. At 200k Taycan is crazy expensive at least for me. Taycan Turbo at 120 would be a winner.
Currently I would wait for new Model S or Model3 ludicrous (rumor).

If the choice is between 4s and ModelSp. I don’t think it’s even close. Model S would blow the doors of the Taycan 4s.