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Old 10-22-2018, 03:51 PM
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interesting - china appears to be making a play to be THE EV manufacturing location…

https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/17/...gn-car-makers/
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/21/...ai/?yptr=yahoo

always fun to watch this play out.
Old 10-22-2018, 03:56 PM
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the 50% number might just come from Chinese sales all by themselves - food for thought...
Old 10-22-2018, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
the 50% number might just come from Chinese sales all by themselves - food for thought...

Will there be an quality difference between Chinese and European made Porsche cars? Or can Porsche force the same high standard for all production?

I ask because I worry about the same thing with Tesla Chinese factory when it comes on-line.
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Tesla announced today that it's moving more production to china for "local" markets - I'm more convinced than ever that Porsche will meet/exceed it's 50% EV world wide sales goal purely on the basis of car sales in China… EV sales in other regions will simply bolster that percentage, but china will sales will be the driving EV volume for Porsche.
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Originally Posted by Petevb
onestly I'd probably be more willing to buy a Porsche EV than a PDK or turbo, but I suspect for many that's not the case at all.
You are 100% correct. Many porsche guys, myself included, would rather stick a fork in their eyes than buy an electric car.
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Goal of greater than 50% is too ambitious by 2025.....perhaps by 2040......there will be resistance from true Porsche enthusiast including me........but I will do my part to recycle as much as the next person.................
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There's been a translation error. Porsche will not be 50% fully electric by 2025.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...tailer-charger

"We expect by 2025, roughly 50 percent of our products to be electrified, either with a fully electric engine or with a plug-in hybrid"
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Originally Posted by Petevb
The PDK with turbo falls into a no-mans land for me- it's lacking driver involvement and sensory experience vs a normally aspirated manual, while on the flip side it still feels antiquated after jumping out of a good EV. If you're limited to just one car you might argue it's the best compromise between both worlds, but having owned a couple EVs and DCT cars the experience of PDK + turbos always hits me when I switch back and forth. Nail the throttle, transmission drops a couple cogs, revs flare, boost builds then go. After the nail the throttle and go of a good EV it feels decades behind. Of course a manual is slower still, but there you're engaged two extra limbs and your brain to do the same function, bringing you into the experience in a way the auto doesn't.
The response time when suddenly accelerating with PDK in auto might feel slow compared to an EV because the car needs to downshift and build up revs but imho you don't need to go all the way back to a manual transmission to fix this. I feel like people are forgetting that PDK can be driven manually too. I actually use manual mode by default in my 991.2 TTS. When I want to accelerate, I first drop a gear or two which both makes the throttle response instant and is more engaging than an EV, especially with the engine sound. I switch to auto only on long cruising trips when I care more about comfort/mileage. For me this is the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by JKav
There's been a translation error. Porsche will not be 50% fully electric by 2025.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...tailer-charger

"We expect by 2025, roughly 50 percent of our products to be electrified, either with a fully electric engine or with a plug-in hybrid"
It is also careful to just talk about "product" not sales volume.
While 50% of the line up may have a battery involved the sales volume may be wildly different.
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50% EV in 2025 sounds a little difficult. If Taycan starts selling in 2020, 2025 is only 5 years after. And the majority of Porsche sales in terms of numbers will probably be the base Macan and base Cayenne, both SUV and expected to be cheaper than Taycan. If 50% is EV plus hybrid, that sounds more realistic, but still difficult. I don't think I have seen many hybrid Cayenne and Panny on the road.



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