Originally Posted by earl pottinger

What is wrong? That is exactly how I would expect the Germans to approach it...

Originally Posted by Antigravity

Well aside from all the back and forth , haters, lovers, arguments about silly arguments about charging, and battery quality and such... I just got a Model 3....

I got a Model 3 Performance, and opted for the 20" wheels just to get it a little more Sporty looking since I feel is a sort of ugly but a "cute" car... unfortunately I"m not into cute and should have got the Model S for a little more style.... but I bought it for a get-around car which I'll hand down later to the wife.

And here is the bottom line. The freaking thing RIPS... I test drove it and was very impressed with its acceleration.. but now that I've flogged it a bit up in my twisties (Hwy 33 in Ojai) the jury has spoken... I'm the judge, jury, and executioner... and I have a GT3 RS so I'm not gushing like a some Tesla fan-boy who hasn't driven a fast car before. This is an great car in its class. No it's not a dedicated Sport Car but it will utterly flog the Sedans in its class and beyond. It is very flat around corners and launches out of corners with crazy torque, if it had stiffer suspension it would be a serious little monster. It is the biggest sleeper car I've ever driven. Very happy with its performance which is really of the charts for what it does... and the bigger seller for me was the functionality over a typical car with the Self Driving on the freeway and such.

As far as some other quotes of seen on this thread about TESLA and going broke... you guys must not understand the level this brand is at. I personally did not realize it myself either until I did a little research once I decided I liked it after the Test Drive. It is a crazy RABID fan base. I personally think they are kooky, and a bit like Scientologists (joking) , but they are a league of people putting up Tesla promotion on hundreds of Youtube Channels. I'm not at all worried about Tesla AT ALL... they will be in debt while growing this business model and they may stagger some... but the bigger worry is the competition IF they don't come over to a business model that allows you to not waste a half day at a dealership with a bunch of shark type people always angling to screw you. That is the old style and will probably fade.

If Tesla flounders there will be companies like Apple or Google willing to pay bazillions for them. Its a Cult out there and the brand has such a loyal fan base it's beyond crazy... and all those people just promote the gospel of Tesla every day with new video .You can't buy that, or even create it with money... and Ford will never have it and they are just massive. I don't see that for ANY other brand of Car. Even with lack of Profit so far the BRAND and unique way of doing this is what its about. I would do this again for sure next time I need a new Car.

Originally Posted by Chris(MA)

Here is an example of Tesla's way of thinking vs an established car company (German)....

BTW bought wife a Model S to replace her benz with and she loves it Quote: "I can't ever imagine going back to a gas car again"

Originally Posted by doshc

Thanks for sharing us your experience, really great you love the car. On another topic do you think it's possible to make a lightweight Lithium battery replacement kit for the 12v lead acid up front?

Mountain Pass Performance does make one with drop in fit however I think some competition here would be good

https://www.mountainpassperformance....OGkQ-pHs4QHaLM

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Welcome! Glad you are enjoying the new car.

Get on the list for a set of these and that should fix your issues. https://www.mountainpassperformance....nce-pre-order/

Originally Posted by Antigravity

Well I did not know about this! But, heck yeah I will make something for that and might already have something since we have many different sizes.

I just have to confirm the sizing, and Amp Hour Capacity and how the battery is being charged and operating in the Tesla system.... I don't trust some of the non-battery companies to understand the broader picture in applying a lithium battery to an existing system. But very promising, and shouldn't be too hard to run a few tests. I'm going to have to tear into the Model 3 and take a look at what is going on there. Thanks for showing me that!

Originally Posted by acoste

Lithium ion batteries can not be charged below 32 deg F. The car starts charging it as soon as it gets turned on. This would wear out a lithium ion battery, and this is why Tesla uses the conventional one.

Originally Posted by W8MM

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Originally Posted by W8MM

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Originally Posted by doshc

Gearheads can still enjoy the Tesla Model 3

"Three thousand miles ago, my wife and I purchased a Dual Motor Long Range Tesla Model 3. It is the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Now listen, I’m not some millennial who upgraded from a Prius, but a lifelong, consummate gearhead.
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https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2019/03/14/gearheads-enjoy-tesla-model-3

Originally Posted by Antigravity

NOw first I will preface by saying NO I am not comparing